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Doctor Martha Jones ([personal profile] justwords) wrote in [community profile] genessia2017-10-15 08:40 pm

They should come with a manual (video/Action) closed

Who: Martha, Jack, Mira and Rose
Where: Wherever Rose is here
When: Right away
What: A long overdue talk
Warning: IDK will update if needed

[Martha sighed softly typing a private message to Jack]

We need to talk to Rose now. Did you get the message from bowtie boy?

She's at the park.... meet me there alright?

[Martha hopes that between Jack and Mira, Rose will be there when they all got there
mira_strauss: (Fox)

Mirajane hunting down Rose Tyler to bring her to her intervention.

[personal profile] mira_strauss 2017-10-16 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
[Mirajane had cheated a little, and beat just about everyone to the punch when it came to tracking down Rose, because she was capable of transforming into different kinds of animals if she wanted to, so she simply transformed into one that could figure out Rose's scent. When she does find Rose, she hops over to her and merely nuzzles her leg as a small fuzzy animal.]

Rose? Are you going to come have a talk with Jack and I?

[Or would she have to drag her there? Because she could and would do so... lovingly... as a friend.]
bigbadrose: (Don't die)

[personal profile] bigbadrose 2017-10-16 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
[ARRRRRRRRRRRRGH.]

[She picks up the cuddly wolf-fox that is Mirajane, and HONESTLY DOESN'T EVEN SWEAT THE FACT THAT THE DEMON LADY IS NOW.... NOT A DEMON? The fuck does Rose know? Maybe it is. After all, that one demon-dude she shot out of the spaceship was human possessed, so maybe it's like... reverse possession.]

[MAKES SENSE TO HER.]

[But she buries her face in Mirajane's scruff.]


I don't wanna talk.

I'm sick of talking.

[Jack was the one person she did sort of feel like she could trust. Well no, she trusted Mirajane, and certainly Amy, and IF SHE WAS BEING HONEST WITH HERSELF, she trusted Koishi, and Max, and Martha, River, and even the Doctor, in all incarnations. And maybe Mickey. And her parents. Maybe.]

[But Jack was the only person she trusted as incapable of even accidentally hurting her.]

[He never had. Never would. Would turn the universe inside out for her first. And she didn't deserve that. Really didn't. And had brought him oh so much pain.]

[Which just reminds her and Rose bawls more.]

[Hope you don't mind wet fur, Mirajane.]


I made him suicidal too.

[WORST FRIEND EVER.]
mira_strauss: (Warmest hug)

[personal profile] mira_strauss 2017-10-16 03:17 am (UTC)(link)
I know.

[She just cuddles the heck of Rose, because she's been there with her siblings before and sometimes you just need to hug and cry it out. She knew she had needed to come get Rose first because she knew she'd need something like this, and the others would want to rush her before she was ready. And what's better to hug than a friend who could be a cute, cuddly, fuzzy animal bff?]

It's because he's a big giant baby, and he can't handle his emotions like a sane rational person.

[Clearly the best answer to making the Doctor suicidal right? Well no probably not, but Mirajane just felt that 10 was a bit too emotional about all this. Rose had the right to be emotional, but the Doctor was all too prone to action when he got emotional, and usually it wasn't good. Yeah... her fur is definitely getting a bit soaked at this point, but she doesn't want to transform back while Rose is cuddling her like a stuffed animal, because then she'd probably be squishing her. While she wasn't exactly heavy, she wasn't a twig either.]

Rose, Rose, Rose...
bigbadrose: (biting bottom lip)

[personal profile] bigbadrose 2017-10-16 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
No.

I hurt Jack like that too.

He's not a baby. He's perfect. The best.
mira_strauss: (Awkward wink)

[personal profile] mira_strauss 2017-10-16 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
[Mirajane sighed, and hopped off of Rose, transforming into her human form again.]

No Rose, I think I have to disagree. He's not perfect, and perhaps that's part of the problem. You keep thinking that he is. He's flawed, he's a man, he's imperfect just like anyone else. He's older and wiser much of the time, so he's had time to work on a lot of his imperfections, and maybe you mean he's perfect for his imperfections, but if that were the case would you be so angry with him?

[She put's a hand on Rose's shoulder, and tries to steady her.]

Rose? Are you ready to come talk with Jack?
bigbadrose: (oohhhh when I get my hands on you)

[personal profile] bigbadrose 2017-10-16 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
[Sets Mirajane down.]

I'm talking about Jack.

The Doctor's an idiot.

A stupid, stupid, stupid Timelord idiot!

[Kicking the tree.]

[Makes a giant X with her hands and arms to Mirajane.]
I'm not mad at Jack. I could never be mad at Jack. I'm mad at myself.

I made him, I made Jack the only other best friend I ever had other than the Doctor, who is a stupid stupid Timelord idiot, I made Jack suicidal too.

Throw in some suicide attempts when Mickey was getting arrested four times for killing me, and I'll have officially made it a hat trick!

[Sits back down on the ground and can't even cry.] Jack's perfect. Not a baby. Jack's the best. Never fucked up anything. And even if he was suicidal, it's only because I made it that he couldn't die. Same as the Doctor.

Only worse than I did with the Doctor. I just saved his life and manipulated the fifth dimension and pocket dimensions so he couldn't accidentally commit suicide, so then even when the whole universe wanted to off him, nothing ever would. I made him survive the war. Then I made Jack survive three, and --

[GROANS AND LAYS ON THE GROUND AND ROLLS OVER TO FACEPLANT.]

[And then on her side again.]


How many more?

Just because I'm too stubborn to let 'em die?

Stupid. Stupid. SMALL thing, right?

But no. I couldn't let my Dad die either. So the Doctor and the TARDIS found me the universe where he lives just so I could have my Dad without a universe-collapsing paradox.

And I still wasn't happy with it.

Ran away.

[BALLS HER ARMS OVER HER HEAD.]
mira_strauss: (Surprise)

1/2

[personal profile] mira_strauss 2017-10-16 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
[Now it was Mirajane's turn to be surprised.]

You... I...

[She kept assuming Rose had been talking about the Doctor, but she hadn't realized what Rose had done to Jack or Micky and Mirajane felt... guilty.]

Oh Rose I... I'm so sorry. I... I didn't know.

[She knew Jack was immortal but not the depth of it, and it only clicked afterwards that of course Jack would have been suicidal if it was completely impossible for him to die. Rose was the one who made him immortal out of love... out of wanting to protect him always and forever... even from himself. So Mirajane said as much.]

Rose...
mira_strauss: (Laying beside you)

2/2

[personal profile] mira_strauss 2017-10-16 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
[Mirajane lies down on the ground next to Rose, feeling... humbled in some ways by what Rose has been through.]

Jack's not perfect either, but he's definitely very good. He still makes mistakes, but what's important is that when he realizes he's made a mistake he tries to make it better. He's what humanity should strive to be, someone who keeps trying to do the right thing even in the face of unspeakable horrors.

[Like living forever? Like watching everyone you love die horribly and still trying to do your best to keep it from happening to as many other people as you can? Jack didn't have to be good, he could easily just hide himself away from the world as an immortal, live a life of solitude and luxury with his years of experience, but he did still do whatever he could to keep himself grounded and human, his time being her bartender had shown her that much. It was one of the many ways he was different from Zeref. Of course in Zeref's case he had a far less benevolent entity that had made him immortal, and staying with humans would get them killed.]

Your biggest problem Rose... from what I can see? Is that you love people too strongly. I think it's one of those things where you never want to let them go, and while that's a very human thing, it can also be very dangerous. I think that's one of the reasons why I like you so much, because selfish as it is I don't want you to let me go sometimes either.
Edited 2017-10-16 04:04 (UTC)
bigbadrose: (never let go)

ICON KEYWORD THO

[personal profile] bigbadrose 2017-10-16 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah....

[Bitter laugh, and crying, pulls her arms around her head protectively.]

[How to let go...]

[How to let go...]

[She has no idea.]

[If she knew, she wouldn't have opened the heart of the TARDIS, made Jack immortal, chased the Doctor through cracks in time and space, launched herself through dimensions with a cannon against orders, and flirted with a married man.]

[Repeatedly.]

[But the thing she loved most about Jack...]

[Was he kept getting back up.]

[He kept trying.]

[And maybe the Doctor couldn't do that at all.]

[But Rose Tyler could.]

[So she got up, and offered Mirajane a hand up.]


He saved my Mum, Jack did. Looked after me my whole childhood, and I never knew he was there. The whole time.

I got...

Most mad at the Doctor because... it was the youngest one who left him. He thought Jack was forgiving him for something in the future. But that wasn't it. Jack was forgiving Tie-Doctor for bein' left behind. He just...

When I turned Jack into a fixed point, he ran away from him. The Doctor ran. And took me too. And said Jack wanted to stay there to clean up the mess. He was trying to protect me from myself. From the fact that I hurt Jack like that.... but it doesn't help, yanno? Just makes it worse. Jack needed us, needed me... and the Doctor never gave me any say in it.

And when the Doctor said he felt sorry for Jack...

[Shakes her head.] I told you, yeah? Never ever let Jack hear that... but I just... I got so mad at him.

Still am. But that's when baby Doctor got suicidal. Because I told him he should be jealous of Jack. Jack had everything, and I'm stayin' here for Jack. Not so he could have... infinity with me or somethin'. Because...

[DEEP BREATH CLOSES EYES.]

[AND AGAIN.]

[Still winds up snarling.]
If he only thinks that's why he can try here with me, and not back in our universe then...

Then he had no chance with me. Here or anywhere. Because I won't be taken for granted like that. I won't.

I know you keep sayin' I'm too good for him...

[SHRUGS.] It don't matter. Nothing could make me leave him. Nothing.

But I won't wait around for him. Never again.

[Covers her face with both hands and snorts.] I say that... and I just spent five and a half hours waiting for him.

I don't want to marry him.

And I sure as hell don't want to marry everyone else he's attached to just so he can pretend he never has to face his problems. That a long life means -- whatever stupid thing he thinks it does. That he can just do whatever and nothing matters.
mira_strauss: (Sorrow)

LEGIT AF

[personal profile] mira_strauss 2017-10-16 04:50 am (UTC)(link)
Rose...

[What could she say? Was there even anything she could say?]

You were right to get angry at him... and that's why I called the doctor a big baby. He got scared and ran away, but he never went back to try to make things better, and that's why you and Jack will always be so much better than him to me. When you see a problem you don't run away, you get up, you do try again, and I think the doctor is only willing to try so many times.

[That was clearly the case with eyebrows. He'd tried so many times he simply couldn't keep doing it anymore because he was tired and old.]

If the Doctor really felt sorry for Jack, he could have gone to him, helped him, but he's still a baby and wants everything his way. I'm sorry... I don't mean to bash him so much but I just...

[Mirajane sighed...]

I told him that he'd have to learn to let go if things didn't work out, and I think that's something you have problems with too. All things eventually die, everything has its time and its place, that's what makes life so precious and fleeting. My sister taught me that... the hard way too since we all thought she'd died for many years.

[Rather than being sucked into another dimension.]

Come on... let's go talk with Jack.

[Without waiting for Rose's response, Mira's back erupts into large demonic bat wings, and she flaps her way into the air with Rose in hand. The wings were magical, and didn't really need air propulsion to let her lift Rose into the air, so holding her hand was more for Rose's benefit than a need for Rose to hold on not to fall. It would be a matter of minutes in the cool rush of the nighttime air before the two of them reached the rendezvous point.]
Edited 2017-10-16 04:52 (UTC)
bigbadrose: (*facepalm*)

[personal profile] bigbadrose 2017-10-16 05:09 am (UTC)(link)
[Rose shrugged and rolled her shoulders.] It's nothing I haven't thought to myself these last few months. [Quiet. But it's true. It's part of her anger. A huge part of it.]

[And Rose just flinches at the words about everything having a time and place and death.]

[Sarah Jane said that.]

[Rose just shakes her head, and looks up at the sky.]
They don't have to. They don't have to end. Why does everyone say that? Endings are just... Stories should never end. I don't even like to end chapters. Just one big run-on everything. Run-on books, run-on music, run-on adventures. Never end.

[Hiccups.]

[And cries softly, rubbing her eyes again.]


He was so scared of having to watch me die, of having to say goodbye, he was too scared to do either.

What he said...

That I just wanted two o' him...

[Grimaces, nearly laughing, shaking her head again.] It's not true. I know he was... half-planning to shoot 'imself outta an airlock or somethin'. I never asked him to be human. He was the one who had a problem with bein'--

[Drags a palm down her face.] Human. Mortal. As if I'm either at this point.

And he throws it in my face, like that's the reason I had to stay behind.... but left Jack for being immortal. It's beyond incomprehensible. It's just stupid. Too stupid for words.

[Rests her head on the tree...]

[And then slumps down with her back to it.]


What's the point?

[Hugs legs.]

What am I supposed to say? I told him to sleep with Martha. He told me about sleeping with Jack like... Like that was the kind of friendship we had now. And I reacted to that like a child.

[Turns sideways and head on tree.] What do I say now?

[Pushes her cheeks into a forced smile/grimace with one hand and pointed fingers, and waves with her other hand.] Hi everyone! Real sorry I blew up and all! But yanno, sometimes Bad Wolves just gotta blow down even brick houses! Hope that's okay with you! Even though I was the one who begged you all to come runnin' and fix my mess up with makin' him suicidal. Dunno what set him off this time! 'pparently him asking to meet me for ice cream was enough to do it all over again, because that's how it happened last time! Yay! At least his older self Vulcan-sleeper-gripped him instead of lettin' him take aspirin. Isn't that great?

[Drops hand and scowls.]
Edited 2017-10-16 05:11 (UTC)
mira_strauss: (Bittersweet smile)

[personal profile] mira_strauss 2017-10-16 05:51 am (UTC)(link)
Rose... if nothing ever ended, there could never be any new beginnings. All stories eventually come to an end, just as every day has to come to an end. The rain falls, the sun rises, we are all part of a circle of beginnings and endings, and if try to stop those beginnings and endings it will only cause pain. Love and cherish everything you can while you can Rose... but don't expect forever, or you'll only be even more sad when it's over.

[Mira, brought Rose closer to her in a hug.]

Rose... You are human. You're possibly the most human person I've ever met, and I think that's something to be proud of if you ask me. In spite of everything you've been through, in spite of all the madness, horror, and heartbreak you're still human. You're not a monster, you're not a god, you're still just doing your best to have the common decency of a human.

[She ruffled Rose's hair with a free hand.]

The Doctor is... an immortal and from what I've seen? Almost every single immortal I've ever met hates it. I don't think the doctor knows how to be friends on the same level you wan him to be, or lovers which is probably even more profoundly difficult. How many wives has he had before he even met you? How many children? Your lives are so vastly different, but you're still friends, and you're still trying for one another... your both so...

[Another sigh]

Difficult, you know that? I've never met a pair with love lives nearly as convoluted as you two.
Edited 2017-10-16 05:51 (UTC)
bigbadrose: (hurt)

[personal profile] bigbadrose 2017-10-16 10:01 am (UTC)(link)
He wouldn't be immortal, I just won't let him die.

Not him, not Jack...

[At the mention of wives and children, Rose just curls up in a ball with her arms over her head groaning in agony. Rose has gone buh-bye now.]
bigbadrose: (looking down)

[personal profile] bigbadrose 2017-10-18 07:59 am (UTC)(link)
[Aw. Martha. She's sorry.]

[She wobbles slightly and leans her head on Martha's shoulder.]
Sorry.

[Don't ask for what. For everything. For him chasing after Rose instead of giving his full attention on the future, and then not able to give up his future either. It's a mess. Like she said.]
bigbadrose: (hurt)

[personal profile] bigbadrose 2017-10-31 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
I wish he wouldn't. If it's just gonna hurt him so much.
captainspain: (Default)

[personal profile] captainspain 2017-10-31 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
[Jack was tried of talking frankly, but he was willing to do what was needed to iron all this out. He wanted his family happy agian. He walked up to his girls hands jammed into his coat pockets. He was wearing his armor he was ready for this.]

Rose, Martha.
bigbadrose: (oohhhh when I get my hands on you)

[personal profile] bigbadrose 2017-10-31 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
[Rose just grunts at what Martha says. There's truth in it to be sure, but she doesn't want to admit it just yet.]

[Jack's leg gets a falling over tugging glomp, trying to pull him closer to her.]


Imma box his ears. [H U F F S.] But they're smaller now. Less o' a target. [PUFF!!]
captainspain: (Default)

[personal profile] captainspain 2017-10-31 01:09 pm (UTC)(link)
[Ah yes one of the bonuses of having Martha up to somewhat up to date with him is that she can see through Jack's mask much easier which he both loves and hates. He hugs Rose tightly for a second before answering.]

No. I'm angry at myself and him Martha.
bigbadrose: (whut)

[personal profile] bigbadrose 2017-10-31 04:33 pm (UTC)(link)
[Rose's cheeks flushed. Part of her wanted to pout and act extra childish pointing out no one could stop her, and she already had, but Jack successfully distracted her from that line of thought.]

What, why?

[Jack had nothing to be mad at himself for, and while Rose wasn't sure she could forgive the Doctor as easily as Jack had, she'd thought that was what had happened now.]
captainspain: (Default)

[personal profile] captainspain 2017-11-01 01:02 pm (UTC)(link)
[He looks her right in the face and sighs]

I told him about Donna....in a round about way. I was trying to tell him we chose our paths, that we chose to leave and I mentioned Davros. Then yes he got nosy and I admitted to more than I should have.

[He rubs a hand over his face.]

I was so focused on not telling him about Saxon that I slipped up. But you didn't see him....he was convinced he was burning us up...I was trying to give him hope.
bigbadrose: (serious)

[personal profile] bigbadrose 2017-11-10 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
[Rose just sighs, and reaches up to tug Jack down before leaning back against the tree and letting out a breath.]

[Everyone was blaming themselves. That was the problem.]

[She felt sick and angry again.]

[She wanted to say it was his own damn fault for assuming the worst of himself.]

[For hating himself more than he loved all three of them. Combined maybe.]

[But she would never say that out loud.]

[Rose got up and darkly stalked in long pacing strides back and forth, not even aware of how much she looked like the Doctor himself when he was very angry and troubled.]


I told him. [Growl growl. She's not talking to anyone, just angrily growling to herself, eyes flashing daggers even as focused as they are on her pacing.] I told him he didn't have a clue what he did in the future and he had to--

But no.

Apparently Mr. Rude And Not Ginger had to throw a wineglass on the floor and --

[She growls even more, pacing even more, before leveling Jack a very stern furious expression more reminiscent of her Mum than anyone else and points a finger at him.]

It wasn't you Jack. It wasn't you, me, Martha, Amy, River, or any of it. [All snarls.] It's because it's not in his control.

[She shoves her hands in her pockets and stalks up and down in paces again growling and huffing and puffing to herself and the sky.]

Stupid, bloody, control freak of a --

[Snarl snarl snarl.]

And what does he do? What he always does. Even his older version! Just thinks he can take control of everything!

[Throws one hand in the air and waves it dramatically, her back to Jack and Martha.] Like that'll solve it.

[She knows she's not one to talk. Making Jack immortal because... BECAUSE WHAT EXACTLY? Good intentions????! Literally manipulating everything with Donna and others so that the Doctor was never alone long enough to be suicidal. How many people died because of a butterfly wing's beat?]

[Then again, it was better than not existing at all... so... whatever, she'd do it all over again without even hesitation.]

[Although it made her somewhat furious with herself.]
And what's the one thing he CAN control?

Himself!

[Spins on heel, both hands in pockets again, and back to pacing and huffing and puffing.] But he can't evar be happy because he doesn't want to believe he deserves it. Can he even be happy for his friends? Well I guess we'll bloody find out, won't we?! [Growl growl.] But his older self sure can't. Oh no. Everything is always going to hurt him. Always going to be hard choices. Always throw himself under the bus. To hell with everyone wanting to stop that! [She kicks at the ground furiously.]