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[ANON TEXT:]
I need some good book recommendations. I like fantasy and adventure best. But new is best. I'm basically covered on 20th Century Earth mainstream Britain. Music too!
[What was the point of making that anonymous? Whatever, she tried.]
[Action 1:]
[It's getting colder, which is Rose's favorite, so she's still running around the parks doing yoga, gymnastics, and trying to work off the neverending rage. But as she finally gets the chance to check out the University again, she stops by the Ponds' house, and bring tea and liquor.]
[Action 2:]
[Rose is goofing off at the arcade, and having a generally good time until she dies in game, and swears and slaps it quite a bit unexpectedly.]
[Oops, hope no kids were watching.]
I need some good book recommendations. I like fantasy and adventure best. But new is best. I'm basically covered on 20th Century Earth mainstream Britain. Music too!
[What was the point of making that anonymous? Whatever, she tried.]
[Action 1:]
[It's getting colder, which is Rose's favorite, so she's still running around the parks doing yoga, gymnastics, and trying to work off the neverending rage. But as she finally gets the chance to check out the University again, she stops by the Ponds' house, and bring tea and liquor.]
[Action 2:]
[Rose is goofing off at the arcade, and having a generally good time until she dies in game, and swears and slaps it quite a bit unexpectedly.]
[Oops, hope no kids were watching.]
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It's 2017. Isn't it that year everywhere?
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[He can't see it, but she's laughing so hard!!!]
Goodness. No!
One of my friends here was in 197--
Oh shoot, I'll have to ask the last digit and hope it doesn't embarrass her. Somewhere in the 1970s though! I met her in Britain in my own time in 200... 6? 7?
[More laughing out loud.] It's really hard! Let's see the year Harriet Jones was deposed, we went from 2005, to 2006, to -- Yes! 2007! Okay!
My friend's a TimeLord so the people he meets are from all different years, but we're in a place that's separate from any of the main universes.
Which is how we can be here at all.[Deletes!]Any travel between universes at all requires an automatic amount of time travel, because time itself changes from the observer effect! By the very act of time being calculated, it changes! Every universe is different, based on choices people -- mortals specifically, make and how it impacts their environment.
Thus, to wind up here, people get taken from different points in their life, based specifically on those choices. The only way for us to be here is a different choice in time.
My TimeLord friend actually has 3 of himself here, all from different major points in his life! His youngest here is 903, [Closes one eye to herself, trying to make sure that's right.] Middle is 1400+, and oldest is over 2200+.
Jack's from 5050-ish, IIRC. No wait. 50th century, 4949? That doesn't sound right though. Maybe it was 51st century. That sounds right. Or is it River who's from 5050? Well, either way...
But Jack's lived on Earth through the entire 1900s, and a good portion of the 2000s. It's a REALLY long story.
Amy is from 2014, I think she said? Or was that when the Doctor found her again? I think she's from 2014, because I remember asking her about the 2012 Olympics in London.
Point is: Time is like a bowl of tangled spaghetti that keeps getting eaten. You never know what year people will be from here, because they're all from different strands!
I don't even know what year I'm from! Somewhere around 2010. But I was traveling in between two universes, trying to, but that meant dealing with a lot of the fifth dimension, so it made my age and time between the universes extra fluid. And even just trying to sync the two universes I wanted to bridge was a headache and a half! And! Just because I was in that year, doesn't mean I lived it! I accidentally skipped an entire year once, just during time traveling, and I have no way to measure how much time went by in the void, because time doesn't exist there! So if I aged because my DNA was still churning out and using up ATPC, it's still a mystery to me!
I was hoping the TimeLord could tell me my age, but he doesn't know either. You're not supposed to go through the void at all, nevermind as much as I did. And even TimeLords don't fifth dimension. They don't count as normal mortals. So for him to be here is only part decision for him, and a lot more decisions of mortals around him, if that makes sense.
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Who's Jack?
[And that...is a lot of information. About time travel and interdimensional travel and he should be taking notes.]
I have so many questions!
You know a real TimeLord? Really? That is so cool. I've only heard of them through fiction, so probably the stories aren't as cool as the real thing.
This is my first time going into a different universe, or dimension, is there anything I shouldn't do? I mean, I don't want to break what I have where I normally live. Have you been to any universes where time works differently? Does it work differently here from Earth? If time changes based on observation, why do people think it's constant?
Does that mean there's a version of me that never left New York? Or hey, what about decisions I already made, you're saying I could have come here instead? Whoa.
So your friend Jack has traveled in time a lot? Totally crazy. Has he ever changed anything major? Or hey, why didn't he go back in time and like, kill Hitler or something>?
I don't want you to tell me his story if he doesn't want it shared, that's okay! Time travel is a lot more interesting. I thought it was all fiction, but then again you never know, right? ;)
[Yes, he texted an emoticon like the teenager he is.]
If you're doing time travel how are you managing that? Technology? Or is it just something you can do?
I had no idea everyone's from different times, I'll have to ask them about it!
I would think even if you were traveling through time, you were still aging, so that's probably a good hypothesis. How old do you think you are? I mean, if you moved around in time so much, do you think that took a few years, or a decade or how would it work?
Hey, do you age faster if you move through time?
1/2 SO I HEARD YOU LIKE TL;DR :V
You've heard of TimeLords in fiction? That's rare, though not unheard of! They're pretty mythical even in his own universe and considered fictional in most parts of time and the universe, but they weren't even fictional in my Dad's universe, just unheard of.
You're in a different universe, but still the same 4-dimensions, MOSTLY. Time, like I said, is fluid. Time is the 4th dimension. It can get refracted like a rainbow of color through a prism. But I think that's the only way it's similar to light.
You are 100% safe to do whatever feels natural to you here!
[Doot doot doot.]
[She has to think carefully, she doesn't want to lock this, because if the Doctor or Jack or anyone can correct her, she welcomes it, or the discussion, but she doesn't want to upset Amy or River.]
[Balls.]
[Would 11 know if it would upset Amy? Would 12 know?]
Sunglasses Doctor if you're read this, and I'll send you a text personally too, I don't know if this would upset Amy or not, so I'm leaving it on you to judge hers and River's safety with this and keep them from reading it or locking it from them if it would, okay?
[IRL SIGH.]
Whatever you do in this place, let's call it a universe, even though it's actually a lot smaller, didn't start properly as we know universes to begin and end; and it yet allows for bridges connecting realities -- Anything you do here won't and can't affect your normal timeline of your universe. This is good and bad. It keeps the universes STABLE. It's a very necessary function to prevent paradoxes or gashes in the fabric of time.
Arbitrarily, this place is like the fifth dimension, but immensely more solid. Well, no, it's even further removed, I guess it's a plane where all dimensions except the absolute infinite collide?
1st dimension just is. It's a point that's not even flat. It just is. Whatever is.
2nd dimension is linear. It's flat. 2D. No depth. A square
3rd dimension is depth. Cubes. It's what you usually live in ->
With the 4th dimension which is time.
5th is the dimension of possibilities. It's shades of what could have been. It's the space & time between universes; caused by the choices that could have been made by mortals.
6 is... I forget. Thought? Spiritual? Memory?
There's believed to be either 10 or 12 dimensions in total, I'd have to ask the Doctor for TimeLords' -- let's say "belief structures" on that, or what they proved but I've already proven things TimeLords thought were impossible.
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Yes, I've been to universes -- correct that, dimensions where time didn't work the same or even not at all. There's a universe where Earth just counts time differently. Everything about Earth is the same as the one I was born in, except the little change of time was calculated differently.
All of infinity includes; universes and parrallel Earths based off of every single person who was born or not born; every single decision they ever went on to make or not make, and all the differences that splinter from thereon. With exception of immortals. The idea is that immortals being above or beyond time make decisions more absolutely.
So there are nearly infinite universes where World War Two never happened. But where World War Three took place of World War Two. And so on. It's incalculable, literally. If there is a god, only they would know how much short of that infinity is, because they would also have to be so far removed from time and the vastness of the decisions of infinites that they could still calculate for it, following so far?
So for myself alone, I was trying to get back to the universe with the Doctor; which is the only one he can exist in. I wasn't jumping between choices I made, because I am still me, and that would be paradoxical (and also not help!) instead, I was traveling the universes with different choice others made. Finding the one where everything was the same just time was calculated differently was more like a --
Recalibration.
Now you have to understand that in infinity, that parallel world exists for evey single person on earth that has ever lived or not lived or made a different decision.
That's why you'd have to be a god just to calculate it. It's infinity x infinity x infinity x infinity x infinity [And keep THAT going nearly infinitely....!!) Of course it's kind of meaningless to bother with calculating, because you don't really need to know what the universe would be like if infintite changes of people differed except we were all pigmented on what we ate instead. And yes, that's a thing too, but no, I didn't go there! Lol.
People think time is constant, because we made our devices to count and factor it as if it was constant. If we made our machines (clocks) differently, our perception of time would also change, which would in itself ^ see above: change time.
Jack was a time agent before the Doctor and I met him. He did a lot of time travel before we met him, yes, and then when he was with us, and some more on his own without us. [That's a sore spot for Rose so she won't get TOO into it.]
Jack did a lot of things, not all of them he is proud of. But he also has saved, and will save humanity more than anyone else in the Universe, even the Doctor, and I'm very very proud of him, and I'm glad he's so good and I'm lucky enough to call him my best friend. He means the world to me. And only he and the Doctor really understand just how much.
[Jack did kill the man who invented free time travel for all, but Rose isn't about to bring that up. INSTEAD:]
Killing people you know didn't die the way you remembered can create paradoxes. It's very tricky. Saving people (like JFK) can create paradoxes too!
There are things called "Fixed Points"[DELETE DELETE DELETE!!!! SHE IS NOT GOING INTO THAT!!!!!!!]After all, if you go back in time to save someone you know died, how could you go back in time to save them? See? Paradox.
Time is very very nuanced, and the decisions people make even moreso. They're infinitely receptive, as I think I covered, but because any little thing can cause such a big difference, time travel requires a light touch.
I say this; but I used a literal big ass cannon to rocket myself around. I'm not delicate, don't get me wrong!
[Making Jack a fixed point? FURTHEST FROM LIGHT TOUCH AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE!!!]
If any of my friends are reading this right now, they're already laughing at what an understatement that is!!! OTL [Don't worry Peter <- Rose uses emoticons too!!]
But going back to kill Hitler is just ego. You wouldn't save people from the actions of World War 2. With all the inevitability of decisions, a lot of different timelines could just have World War 2 with a different person than Hitler causing so much pain and devastation! Yes, every single mortal is important, ALL of their decisions are important, and even if you didn't create a paradox because you managed to time it just when everyone assumes he committed suicide (or did he? DUN DUN DUUUUUN!!!) it's beyond arrogant to just assume you can be the one to make that judgement call. You should never try to kill anyone, even the most evil!
Again, I'm not good at the light touch approach. Harriet Jones before she was prime minister called me a very violent child, and I'm not saying I'm not! But how do you know that in your time travel action; there isn't another universe where a time traveler is supposed to create a splinter of your universe in which they get the credit for killing Hitler, and thus bring in a new golden era? How do you know you didn't just mess that up?
Of the things Jack did he's not proud of, he was a Time Agent, and had he not done them, someone else would have. That doesn't make them okay! But it's important to understand, even when our actions hurt others, sometimes they're not preventable either.
Every dimension is a shade, or faction of infinity. You can't calculate them all, so assuming you have a moral right is dangerous.
I created a paradox by saving my father once. I didn't mean to. Not just I didn't mean to create a paradox; I didn't mean to act as impulsively as I did at the time either! I had gone back with the intention of holding his hand when he died, because I don't want anyone to die alone. (Not even Hitler? I haven't much thought on it!) But I went to push him out of the way of the car, as I would have done for anyone in that danger. I was so worked up, I didn't think I'd get there in time, so when I opened my eyes, I just reacted without thinking.
That was the first time I had to watch the Doctor die, he got eaten by reapers because they were like bacteria from another dimension getting in through the wound I caused.
My father fixed the paradox by piecing it all out -- he's brilliant, my Dad, and I'm not just saying that because he's my father, -- and sacrificed himself to save the world from the danger I created with my stupidity.
You can change time. You can change time in very big and very dangerous ways with subtle things (in your own timeline, not here!). But you shouldn't if you're not an idiot. The Doctor and I have our moments, definitely, but overall, we try not to be when we can.
Arguably; all fiction is real somewhere. That's where what I THINK is the sixth dimension comes in. Thoughts come from a course of events and ideas, yeah, but each thought can change reality infinitely causing -> fiction to be reality.
It's kind of a chicken vs. egg argument. Does the thought come from reality, or does reality create the thought. Thus: do we create God, or does God create us?
So very very theoretically!!! Every sing one of my Dad's ideas, inventions, and never completed thoughts have infinite splinters of universes based solely around those. Multiplied by the infinity for his choices, multiplied by infinity for other people's choices, multiplied by infinity for other people's thoughts --
And so on!
Honestly once it starts reaching that point, I just want to yell "Get to the point!" LOL! It's a lot to deal with, and pretty irrelevant because, whatever you're dealing with now is part of that first dimension rule! It is!
So I can't tell you if all fiction is real. And I definitely can't tell you if all fiction has infinite possibilities, or if that's part of the people's choices thing. BUT! I CAN TELL YOU! Many things people think are fiction are definitely real! There's a planet that is the biggest fans of the Doctor ever, because someone made a tv series based on his memories he one time said he was gonna sell to the universe -- he was having a fit of pique at the time. And Jack made a deal to give away some of his memories for -- to save the Doctor. And so his memories were being used like fiction. Wild, huh?
I seem to have aged slower thanks to time travel -- unless I did something to myself the way I made Jack immortal.
The TARDIS is how the Doctor travels, and I traveled with him in that. [In which Rose had to calculate the risks of such a statement and the following; but decided the risks were minimal.] Jack used a vortex manipulator which was given to him by the Time Agency to work for them -- but he kept it when he was trying to get information from them and had left them. The Doctor and I first met Jack because he thought were from the Time Agency.
The TARDIS cannot leave his universe, (she tried once! The oldest Doctor here said he suspected she threw herself there to try to cheer me up for something he'd done, and I 100% believe that's true!) and TimeLords do not splinter. So to get back to his universe, I traveled through the fifth dimension using my Dad's inventions, even though my Dad forbade me.
To explain that more; the universe the TARDIS threw herself into was my Dad's universe. It's a universe where the Doctor and I didn't save Queen Victoria from werewolves, and though she was not corrupted, she was murdered instead. This caused a lot of crazy things there; zeppelins were the popular air travel mode instead of airplanes because apparently Queen Victoria had been working on developing Britain's airplane technology and the USA beat us to it because of that, so without her Majesty's push, USA didn't push either, so zeppelins stayed popular and the Hindenburgh didn't crash because safety was Britain's main focus with air travel not speed. And my Dad who died in the universe I was born in; the Doctor's universe; instead lived and became a famous CEO and inventor, sort of like Steve Jobs, but for Britain. And I was never born in that universe, because my Mum -- in that universe didn't want to stop having a socialite life and ruin in her figure -- but then she died in that one, and my Mom from my main universe married my Dad from that universe and had a brother.
And I was stuck in Pete's universe (Peter Tyler is my father, and we were calling his universe Pete's Universe for short) when--
OKAY!
So in no dimensions exists the void. This is the dimension of 0. Nothingness. No thing. There isn't. No 1, no 2, no 3, no 4, no 5, no infinity. The opposite of infinity isn't negative, it's nothing. And that's what the void is.
So for all the infinite infinity; exists both infinite and non-infinite void.
The void is all dimensions and none. But mostly none.
There is no light in the void, there is NOTHING in there.
AND YET:
As you create time travel and make the main proper dimensions your playground (even 6 come to think because psychics) Void is just the "next step." In a way.
Without getting too much into it; the cyberman were created in my father's Universe by the company that had bought and absorbed his. He was giving my ex boyfriend's counterpart information to work against the company, and when the TARDIS threw herself to that universe; we stopped the cyberman from taking over Pete's world. Ricky (Mickey's counterpart) died in the event, so Mickey stayed behind in that universe to help with the clean up.
Again, skipping big big details; the cyberman were able to jump through the void back to our universe, because--
[A dalek went Bad Wolf and helped them!]
[Too complicated. WAY too complicated.]
They had help. My Dad took over Torchwood in his universe -- which was set up by Queen Victoria after the Doctor and I saved her because she also exiled the two of us on account of our goofing around and enjoying it a bit too much. You can ask Jack more about it, he met her! And that is how he worked for Torchwood in the Doctor's universe!
In Pete's Universe, it was set up to protect against aliens, but to help them too, because the werewolf was just an alien that had been stranded and then this freaky cult kidnapped it and used it for their own gain and kept raising it in secret for a long time.
So after the cyberman disappeared, Pete invented hoppers to follow them! And Mickey came too!
To send them back, the Doctor send my Mum, Mickey, and Pete and the rest of Torchwood to the Pete's universe, and anyone who traveled through the void had void stuff on them (looks like black spots, it's sort of the negative space!) which meant me and the Doctor did too. I refused to go to Pete's universe but I slipped when I was helping the Doctor, and I would fallen into the void where we were sending all the cyberman, except my Dad caught me and took me back to his universe.
Like I said. I refused to stay put.
So I traveled the fifth dimension and made a bridge using the mortals' decisions around the Doctor to make my way.
Not even TimeLords could do that, hah!
1/? GASP WHO LET THE SECRET OUT!
[It's better not to be sad about it, but probably he'll miss Ned eventually. And seriously, he's never wished he had his notebook more than he does. He'll save this and make notes and theories later.]
Yeah, well you know I have a theory that humanity can come up with a lot of things in fiction that just happen to be real elsewhere.
So whenever you watch a movie or something, in some reality, I bet it's real, just probably didn't happen the way you think it did.
It's like how cool Iron Man is, and how they make comics of him and all kinds of toys,
but he's like an actual person, right?
[Oh wait, she might not know that.]
I just mention it because he's not a secret superhero, everyone knows who he is where I'm from. He's so cool.
[Tony, don't be reading this.]
That's interesting that this place isn't connected. Do you think there's a way to travel through time and space willingly around here? I mean, I'm not too sure how I got here in the first place, but that's an interesting question too, but from what I gather, most people don't know? It wasn't in the welcome message, at least, unless they just don't tell people to prevent panic,
which is silly because I didn't panic. I think it's kind of cool!
Are you sure it's a lot smaller? I can still see a sky, with stars and unless that's some kind of illusion, how would it work if not like on Earth? Do you know what he solar system is like in this place? What planet are we on then?
All dimensions collide? Hmm. Interesting. Obviously I'm used to three dimensions,
but I can't say I've studied a lot of dimension theory. Now I wish I had and you wouldn't need to explain it to me. Sorry.
You could ask the TimeLords, but if you've already proven something different, then that means there are things they don't know, which is pretty impressive, if they've seen a ton of different time and places.
I wonder if there's a dimension or universe or some place where *everything* is figured out. That would be amazing. People are always coming up with new things and theories,
and that part at least is fascinating.
/Splits the streams!
It's possible, for all fiction to be reality. Sixth dimension (if I even have that right!!?!?!) isn't my expertise, but it makes me a little nervous. If you get too into the technicals of thinking, it becomes a thing where -- well, what is real? My friend, the Doctor, the oldest of him here is teaching MetaPhysics and Space at Attleton University, you should check out the classes, even if you aren't going to college, you can sit in on them like I do. His lecture earlier today was about reality and I was getting in a debate with him about it.
Even if all fiction is real somewhere, most of reality cannot ever intersect -- and shouldn't, or sometimes mustn't.
But it's a sticky mess when it becomes a matter of psychic, thought, ideas, and fiction intersecting with the other dimensions (infinitely!). Because then even thoughts have outcome. If you wish someone harm but don't act on it, wouldn't ever make that choice; does that mean there is infinite possibility for it happening all the same? Or if you are the receiver of what is real elsewhere, and just a conduit for it such as calling it fictional, that leaves open the idea that you chose to kill someone in another reality by fiction. Should writers always endeavor then to rescue characters? What if the work of fiction prevents a real murder instead? Or inspires an entire field of work like detectives and Sherlock Holmes?
Usually, the more fiction exists somewhere, the better the people are for it. Even when the fiction contains bad things like wars and famines. It let's people play out the ideas of the fifth dimension, what they would choose and how; without actually having to go there and intersect. But it's possible that somethings are real without all things being so. Or even that if things weren't fiction in some realities, they'd be real and inevitable in others (which I have seen to be true!)
Until VERY recently, I thought the TimeLords knew everything and had all the dimensions and intersections figured out! But counting infinity isn't even something they can do, ahahaha.
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sometimes you know? Can't be with him all the time. Ha ha.
[Yeah, real subtle. Somewhere Peter Parker facepalmed.]
See, I think that question is the easiest one! If all fiction is possible than everything is real. It's just interesting. I wonder if the ideas come from communication with other dimensions? What do you think about that hypothesis? Then of course, you'd want to know how that happens, telepathy of some kind, the kind we can't measure most likely.
If we get ideas from other dimensions so that the ideas are common across the board, there must be some intersection, even if they can't meet. It's just a different kind of intersection.
There probably is, I mean if things are infinite and people make infinite choices, then at some point, say if I wished someone would, I don't know, get punched in the face or something because they're a jerk, probably in some timeline I did that.
I wouldn't, but I could've made that choice which means in theory, somewhere I did.
[It's totally not a specific example to make some jerk stop calling him 'Penis Parker'.]
An interesting thought,
I'm not sure. If I could save people between dimensions, I would do that, but it doesn't make for a good story. I'll have to think about that too.
Fiction is very important, I agree. It's one of the best ways people can get ideas and concepts introduced to them and as history class tells us, when people don't get that kind of exposure they can fall into the charms of someone seeking to suppress their thoughts and intelligence. Keeping people ignorant is dangerous and fiction is a good conduit for different ideas to form, no mater how subtly they may be introduced, if it gets someone thinking 'hey what about this?' then it's important.
Like right now, all of this is fiction in my world, but it's really cool stuff to think about.
I'm not surprised, I'd think the capability is beyond anyone who exists right now. But, maybe someday, and you could use your time travel to meet them.
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It definitely doesn't correlate to people's home universes though.
I think you're awesome too <3 But I hope he comes, because I got lucky having so many friends and friends-of-friends arrive even before me and a lot after!
It's possibly communication or telepathy, yeah. I don't know... much of anything about psychic stuff! Even when I was traveling with the Doctor I always scoffed at fortune tellers!
And archaeologists -- no not really, bad joke sorry. Just kidding River and Amy, I promise!Jack or the Doctors are really the ones to ask. The Doctors and Jack are telepathic. Jack might be stronger than the Doctor at it, I don't even know how it's measured!!! I know the TARDIS is telepathic, but I can't get comfy talking her to without talking out loud unless like... people are watching and then I can be silent.
I'm still trying to learn how to be psychic with Jack lol! I haven't had a chance to try with the Doctors. Too scary um!
I'm not sure that thoughts are the same as choices. Choices are made based on SO MANY thoughts, so many OTHER actions that lead up to them, that thoughts alone having their own worlds just based on them kind of scares me!
If you have a choice to punch or not punch, then yes, there are universes where you did punch! But just because you think it, doesn't mean it's really a choice. I think?
Like... technically there could be infinite universes where I didn't skive off (skip, since you're American :P) classes with my mates Shareen and Keisha (we were really trouble in school!!) and in Pete's Universe, my ex-boyfriend Jimmy who ran off with Noosh in Norway, never met me and was in jail instead (weird?) because I wasn't born in Pete's Universe.
But it gets into surreality. The fifth dimension is full of choices that people didn't make, and I think normally, wouldn't ever. Because usually even little choices aren't just a flip of a coin (which again, yes infinite possibilities and worlds based around! It's dizzying!!)
If you just think things, it gets into another set of... surreality. On top of the 5!!!
So not just "if you think of punching someone, maybe one time in the possibility of infinite, you did" but even "If you dreamed a dragon ate them like in the Neverending Story, then in some universe, one did!!!" It gets really crazy!!! You wouldn't even have that thought, MAYBE, if you hadn't seen the movie, if it wasn't real somewhere, if it wasn't "possible," if it wasn't -- etc.
It's just so enormous! Granted, infinity IS enormous, by definition lol! But the weight and responsibility of it I don't think anyone should have to deal with!
I agree with you that fiction is super great and important lol! That's why I'm asking for books to read! And especially fantasy. I want to pretend it isn't real and not have to feel guilty or sad about deaths =\
But nah, the Doctor's been to the end of time! Granted; only for his universe, and I guess my universe will have all sorts of INSANE advantages because there's me, I'm going to grow a TARDIS with a human version of the Doctor, and my Dad might yet invent human time travel from our hijinks? o_O Maybe even my baby brother will?! WHO KNOWS!!! So maybe Pete's Universe will have someone who can calculate it, lol!
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Were there as many people here when you arrived as there are now? I'm guessing you didn't just show up like I did.
I hope so too, but if not I'll take notes so I can tell him everything later!
I don't have telepathy as a skill, so I don't know how it works, not really. I can't even think of anyone who has that, but you know, fiction. Which is cool! It just means I can't ask them how it works. Unless you think your doctor or Jack would tell me that.
I don't know if I would speak aloud while talking like that. Maybe? Yeah, maybe.
Wait, that's something you can learn? Cool! How did you learn it? What's that like?
Can anyone learn?
[No Peter doesn't need a new skill, don't Rose.]
Well technically I always have the choice to punch someone, like say, Flash Thompson. Just as an example. I mean, I could walk up behind him and punch him, but I haven't. So I probably did in some universe. I wonder what happened when that happened? I don't really want to test it in my dimension.
Why did you skip so much school? Boring right?
It's kind of dizzying, but I like it. It's a good thought exercise, trying to come up with all the possibilities, which probably sets off new possibilities.
See, I'm not sure dreams are the same thing. Do you think they are? Do they work like thoughts and choices? Because we're not conscious of them. I'm sure there are a lot of dragons, not just that one, and they came from somewhere.
Why? Do you think people can't understand the weight of it, or do you think it's just that the weight is too heavy?
If it helps, fiction that you read isn't real here, and what did happen is probably so different, the story you're reading makes no difference at all in the end. That's what I'd say about it. :)
How do you grow a TARDIS? I'm still not sure how it works.
Well, I suppose you can't guess the future, but you can travel to it! ;)
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I was just in the process of getting used to the idea of there being a human version of the Doctor and being back in Pete's Universe, where I didn't ever intend to be again!
The youngest Doctor here had just said goodbye to me. Before stuff from the 5th dimension.
But Martha came and he went to the dream docks here so he could gain the future (for him!) memories of traveling with her!
Jack I don't even know. He's been through more than all of us combined.
The oldest Doctor was... teaching? But there was a thing that happened around him too.
I don't think this place ever existed without people. The cities are not built or connected properly or naturally. It's like they were build with people already to live in them.
I've been here a few months! But there are people who've been here for years, and immortals, like I said.
You might have some psychic capacity, just not be aware of it. Most humans do. I've had over 5 years of training and I still can only barely do enough to handle the TARDIS (and I've been inside her circuitry!) and shield or block an attack... if it's by someone who isn't as skilled as Jack or the Doctor. Like I said, I am lucky in that I have very amazing friends to help and protect me :) Jack included!!
Supposedly you can even learn magic in Fayren!!! I want to try!!! Mirajane might teach me!
I don't know where you could find a psychic teacher. You can tell Jack I sent you, but unless you're going to work for Torchwood, I'm not sure he'd bother, it's a lot of trust! VERY intimate, lol!
But you could ask around! Can't hurt, right? At least, I don't think there are too many people who can use psychic as an attack here. Without ummm I'm not sure what they call like... last month a bunch of people (myself included!!) got changed into monsters. I was a gargoyle! It was very fun! And a bit scary! But some of the other cities were better or worse depending! Fayren gave out free costumes (?!) but Attleton was filled with puppets that were really dangerous and based on your fears. :( -- All I know is it happened before, thought I don't know of any others I was here for! And one of my friends got affected by the past times too.
Do you consciously daily choose not to punch Mr. Thompson? And daily think about it? Usually the choices that prevent you in the life you've lived are "constants." So it's very unlikely you'd "inevitably" punch him one day. Although if you think about it that much, you might want to do something about it. For your own well-being. I just know if I thought about doing something that much, I'm too impulsive to not do it, but I might do it the first time, if I was going to. Usually a choice is more like, when you're talking to him, debating punching him. Not daily debating a ninja stalk and beatdown. Just saying. I have had to choose not to punch people, but the reasons I chose not to would be very likely not to be at play and thus my choice would usually go the same way. It would take a lot to find universes where I gave into most of my more violent impulses and suggestions. Not an overwhelming amount, like Harriet Jones and I said, I'm violent, but I usually have it way more under control than not.
Yeah! School completely bored me! That's why I skipped my A-Levels. Um, I literally don't know the American equivalent. College entrance exams though. I left school at 16 because I ran off with a guitarist.
I've made questionable life choices. But I wouldn't be ME if I'd stayed in school. Even before I ran off with the Doctor, I didn't really regret it! Just felt trapped again, like I did at school. I always thought if I got out of school I'd be free, but being an adult can be just as trapping. Hell, even with my Dad -- Pete's Universe, I felt really trapped!
Tell you what, I'll just leave the calculations to you then, yeah? ;)
Dreams are more real than thoughts.
In dreams, people can see the fifth dimension, and learn from it. I had to remake every friend I needed in the fifth dimension. It took me a little while just to learn that even using my real name was dangerous, and I had to use my codename all the time. Even when I found Jack and Ianto, it was like they were dreaming. And I THINK they were?! But I had to restart so many times, I didn't bother except with what I came there to do, or what I learned from trial and error was the right course. I knew Donna wouldn't remember what all had happened, and that's good, it was pretty hellish!!! But I told her Bad Wolf at the end so it'd stick.
Definitely can't predict the future! Or guess or calculate it! But the Doctor can be hit or miss when he lands the TARDIS. Usually he knows; but usually there always something messing it up that we have to fix too lol!!! His TARDIS lives for adventure and trouble :)
To grow a TARDIS -- [She's tempted to say it's complicated again, but all right let's see...] Well, you can't. Normally you have to have a planet that doesn't exist in most universes.
FOR ME! -- I have a sonic screwdriver, help that can't be gotten anywhere else (not just my Dad, the human Doctor -- all the memories of the Doctor, but not a Timelord biologically), and a piece of TARDIS coral! They grow like coral reefs. That live in time. That was a terrible analogy. A worse one would be like meatball in the bowl of tangled spaghetti. But it's true!
Normally TARDIS take thousands of years to grow! And even MORE to mature! (The Doctor's TARDIS is much older than him, but doesn't do great without him!)
But to speed it up, we were told to crack the coral shell, refract and double time the sonic light back to create a... yeah I don't know. Hyperlink? I'd have to ask Meta (human Doctor). Or the two older Doctors. And they probably wouldn't tell me since it's moot here and they'd think I was trying to steal part of the one here to make my own or something disturbing oops.
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Maybe whoever came here first! It's just a theory.
Future memories? So he could see his future? Oh. I don't think I'd like that. I think I'll wait and see what happens.
I wonder who built it then. Do you think they're still here? Or their descendants?
Wow, this really might be a long time thing, huh? My aunt is probably going to be worried.
Most humans are capable? Huh, that sounds pretty fantastic. I don't know if I'd be able to learn anyway, even if Jack would like to teach me. What's Torchwood? Wasn't that something you mentioned from back home?
Monsters? That's pretty amusing. I wonder what kind of monster I'd be. Maybe like a giant spider.
[If nothing else, he'll snicker to himself, because it's an inside joke.]
Well I don't know about *daily*, but definitely sometimes. You don't have anyone you find annoying? It would be pretty irresponsible of me to punch him, and I bet I'd get into some trouble. Not the kind of trouble I could hide from my aunt either, so it's a bad idea.
See, I think leaving school is a good idea, if there's something better and more important to do!
That's interesting. What do you make of dream that are like memories? Or nightmares even?
That's even more complicated than I could have imagined. So, not something you can just build then, and if it takes all those years, well a TARDIS is definitely out of my range.
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Yeah, I'm not sure how the Dream Docks work, but it's not quite the same as physically being there.
The architects might be here! It's a bit wonky all over!
Don't worry, your Aunt won't notice you're gone, because you won't be normally. This place bewilders me in that respect.
Yup! Torchwood is the organization Jack worked for, and my Dad took over in his universe! I'm gonna found my own branch here to do him proud!
A giant spider?! Lol! What made you think of that?!
I'm a bit... impulsive. It takes a bit for me to hold back. More than it takes to set me off. So people I wanted to punch I usually yelled at and told off. A lot.
A lot of dreams are just fifth dimension. Things that might have been. It's startling. Nightmares too. Glitched timelines.
Yeah, lol! No TARDIS freely for anyone, sorry!! The Doctor had to do a lot just to get his here, and like I said, she can't travel time here, or leave the realm.
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I wouldn't like that then. What's the point of my life if I can't actually live it?
That's so weird, right? Besides what if something really good happens?
That's good that she won't know. She'd worry, and I don't want her to worry too much,
you know?
Right right, well cool. So you're Queen Victoria here then. ;) Your Majesty.
Just something randomly off the top of my head! :D What's wrong, don't like spiders?
I probably used to be more impulsive, but my uncle used to tell me I had to be responsible and it's not very responsible to punch Flash just because he's being annoying.
Glitched timelines huh? So, since you mentioned using the fifth dimension a little,
do you know how to control your dreams?
I promise I don't want one! I just think a lot.
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How can you not have time? I mean, unless everything is frozen like in a movie or something, but that seems really unlikely. How do you mean it didn't work? On Earth,
right, time is measured with the movement of its rotation around the sun, so unless you mean they didn't at least have that.
Wait, are there dimensions with no sun? What could even live there? The world would be too cold. Humans couldn't live there, but probably some other evolved form of life could, since that's literally how evolution works.
Infinity would include all that and so much more, yeah, because infinity means there's more than we could ever grasp. Do you think infinity is actually infinite? Or is it just too much for us to comprehend? Immortals, huh? That sounds pretty awful. And cool,
but probably also awful.
[Sure, he can believe in immortals, even though he doesn't know how that would even work. Scientifically.]
Ah, I don't think it's incalculable, because the whole theory behind physics and math is that everything *can* be calculated, we just don't have the formulas yet. Then again if I said I wanted to spend my school project calculating infinity theories or how immortals work, or dimensions, I'm pretty sure my teacher would tell me to stop wasting my time.
[So he'll just do that for fun instead!]
But it doesn't surprise me, some humans are just violent I think, or I don't know, but it'd be a lot safer if they weren't.
What's the difference between changing time and recalibrating it? If infinite choices change things infinitely, that would mean that every choice no matter how small diverges things without our knowledge.
Infinity ^ infinity. Got it. It's easier just to use the short form, saves time and characters in the texting box.
[Did he just change that into a text math problem? He sure did.]
Why wouldn't I want to know about those changes?What if I think it's interesting? That alone would make it worthwhile, but I also know that people aren't designed to understand how infinity works.
I guess that makes sense, although I'm not sure how else we would measure time. That's a pretty fascinating thought. I wonder if humanity has ever tried other ways of measuring it, apart from the movement of the sun. I'm going to have to look into that.
It's good to know that Jack is a great man, even if I don't know him personally. I know that's how these things go though, sometimes you never know who could be saving everyone beneath the surface.
Yeah, which is too bad because everyone has someone they'd rather save than lose,
but I think that's just part of grief. Some things happen for a reason.
Do you think that's time itself, which we established is arbitrarily calculated, or something else? I wonder if that's the nature of dimension itself instead.
Of course it does! With great power comes great responsibility, after all. You have to be very careful I imagine, if you are going to travel through time. Since I've never done that, I'm sure I don't know how to do it right.
A big rocket? How do you mean? What was fueling it? How did it work? I promise not to build one!
I asked about him, because that's what everyone thinks they should do if they go back in time. I don't know where I'd go if I went back in time. I kind of like the time I'm in and how things are.
I don't want to kill anyone!!
Whoa, that's something to think about. What if some time travel is supposed to happen?I like it. I don't know who Harriet Jones is, but you'd know if she was right or not.
What's immoral to consider the implications of infinite travel? How do you judge morality anyway?
It would be amazing if you could save people you lost but to me, at least, it would be really selfish. Even without the paradox if you could change the world so much for the better, and to choose someone I lost whose impact is probably so small...it wouldn't be right.
I don't know if I could watch though either, so I can't say in the moment I wouldn't make the same decision.
I'm glad you managed to fix it, at least? I think you can fix anything no matter how weird or challenging that it might be.
I never really wanted to change time, except sometimes wishing it would go faster,
but I'm sure that's just how life is sometimes. Can't wait for something to end.
[For him, it's high school and his teenage years.]
I like that, sixth dimension. Perfect. I wish I knew more about it, but it's just something I think about sometimes when I have nothing else on my mind.
I don't really know about God, that's a whole other question and based on what I've heard, not something I'd really get into. It's not like God is out there saving people like people think he would.
LOL Well, yeah I mean, that's kind of what happens with infinity, it never ends! :D
Totally wild, but even so I bet the fiction is pretty inaccurate. So even if I met people I knew about fictionally, I bet the stories would be exaggerated, changed and edited by some other hand so what I know is pretty useless in the end. Do you think anyone has ever written anything about your life? Wouldn't that be weird if you knew?Did you ever sell your story?
I hope your doctor friend got a lot of money, if he's so popular.
Aging slower? Why are you aging slower? That's interesting. Is it because you've been to dimensions that don't work like Earth?
What's the difference between a vortex manipulator and a TARDIS? How do they work?
How are they powered? How did you use the fifth dimension?
[He's heard of the TARDIS! But fiction is exaggerated and glossed over, so most likely no one knows how it would actually work in reality, at least, where he's from. But it's really cool that it exists. Luckily she can't see him fanboying.]
That's fascinating, the effects of someone from so long ago affecting the future so drastically. I guess that's what you mean by the consequences. Did you fix the situation with Queen Victoria?
In terms of the void, it's not really connected to the dimensions, but somewhere in between? Is that how you mean? Just trying to get a clear picture here.
What's a cyberman and how does it work? Is it like an android of some kind? Wouldn't Mickey staying there affect paradoxes?
Jack sounds like someone I should talk to, definitely.
You managed to use people's decisions to travel interdimensionally? That's amazing.
No technology involved? How did you come to have that ability, if I may ask? Did you take an educated guess or something?
I'll just say, I'm glad you didn't fall into the void.
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Time is usually a constant existence in all main dimensions, but there are infinite dimensions in theory, based on the combinations and absence of others! Thus there can be dimensions without a 3rd dimension, where time still works, but all the laws of physics would be completely different! So yes, there are easily dimensions of nearly infinite parallels of everything else is the same: but for no time! Presumably this would be heaven! - Or at least the Christian concept of it, I'm not great with religions, but there's a few space religions whose idea of heaven and hell are the same as Christianity's! Assuming heaven as percieved, or thought by Western Earth/Christian philosophy exists as thought (see also: 6th dimension thought and chicken vs. egg) it would have to exist beyond time. Without time. Just soul. Sounds pretty crowded if everyone from all the dimensions, even those with time are there!
There's infinite versions of Earth where time is calculated differently, infinite versions without time -- because it must allow for an ever and constant expanding population and all their choices; even without time, the fifth dimension exists.
There's even a 2D earth! (infinitely!) But this is easy to recreate. Just draw it! Voila, you've made a 2D earth. It is infinite because of the other factors at play; everyone from earth, everyone ever from Earth, and anyone even NOT from Earth and accounting for all of time, could infinitely draw 2D Earths. How many will there be? Could anyone actually "go" there?
Infinity isn't automatically incalculable as much as.... it's infinite. That snake eating it's own tail in a figure 8 on its side! The more you imagine it, the more infinite it even becomes!
Time isn't infinite; except turned sideways. When you factor all universes, all parallels, all possibilities, and so on? Time is then infinite! Moreover; not all universes have the same end as each other. Something made even more infinite considering 1) not all universes have the same start as each other 2) same colliding factors (ie: Earth being formed) and 3) all choices people make speeding things up or slowing them down! This again, comes back to the observer effect (Sunglasses would be so proud) in which observing time, changes it, and changes us. We change our decisions based on realizing "time is running out." This changes our actions, and then changes our environment.
Yes, every choice you make results in a different parallel. I had to work a lot to get a best friend of mine to a very small seeming decision. I had to make her turn left. And it literally meant the fate of her universe. The universes in which she did not, she instead had to live through the End of Earth without knowing why.
I reiterate, this place is removed from that, however. If it continues to cause splinters based off the decisions here, they would be not impacting your normal lifeline.
My friend who had to turn left was being manipulated by a being feeding on the fifth dimension, and trying to kill another friend.
I don't consider that pocket dimension I had to use, and the bridge I had to make the same as reality.
I can't.
It's back to the idea of fiction being real to me. I can't accept the idea of "necessary evil," so as long as it's more like a simulation or a video game, then it's okay. You know in dreams you sometimes get another chance to replay the whole thing out all over again, and you remember what you did before and what to do better? That's like the fifth dimension. It's the shades of possibilities, it doesn't mean you'd actually choose things differently, it's what if you had?
Infinity ^ infinity! Yes! You're smart lol! I was never good at maths.
You can't exactly change anything in the fifth dimension. At least not like in the main four we normally live in. It's sort of like a shadow realm. Instead of choices you made, it's might not have. It's a what if. It's... complicated. I had to recalibrate in the version of my earth where time was different because it was just calculated based on people instead of math. Subjective, not objective. It was really weird! Unreliable. I didn't try to change their view of time, because even if I could have (It would have taken too much and for what? It worked to get them to the same place!) it was not my place to do so, and might have actually messed things up for what I needed to be doing (I might have gotten stuck on just trying to fix "time" in all of the earths where it was different ARGH!!!) So it was a sign to me, to recalibrate my cannon.
It wasn't a rocket! It was a cannon! LOL!
You know at circuses how they had the human cannonballs who would be launched out of a cannon? It was like that! Only I didn't have to stuff myself in it, I shot it and it would shoot me to the other dimensions. It was actually working the opposite of what the Doctor did! He used the void stuff to send the cybermen back into the void, so I used it, to send the void around me. It sounds weird, but then it was really really weird.
2D worlds have stars they orbit too -- usually. But because of the lack of gravity, it's less "orbit" and more "hangs there."
See? It gets really confusing and silly to think about beyond a certain point!! If you want to get really into the weeds on it, you should ask one of the Doctors. I really only cared about what I could use, and making sure I didn't get stuck somewhere!
According to the Doctor, traveling through time is like being a tourist in Paris! You have to take chances, get your feet wet, get mugged, and wind up kissing total strangers.
Something about him and French girls I swear...People worry too much! That's another thing he said. Everyone's always worrying about the end of Earth, but then it all comes about at a perfectly normal time when everyone has moved away, the continents all drifted, and the historical society paid a lot of money to drift it back, but then the money for pure nostalgia runs out so the shields to protect it aren't worth it anymore, and the sun's going to expand and burn it up, and all the rich and mighty are going to come watch it at a party. And I know I'll see Jack there, but too bad it's my past! I won't know it's him when I do! That's the story of our lives outside of here, me and Jack. Him always looking after me, and me never having a god damn clue or able to take advantage of it and give him a big hug.
[ALTHOUGH HE IS GOING TO BE A FACE IN A JAR SO..... It'd be hard to hug him anyway, even if Rose found a way.]
I literally couldn't tell you how to recreate anything like the dimension cannon LOL!!!! Even if it worked here! Which it wouldn't.
The Doctor managed to get his TARDIS back; but it's restricted. She has her soul -- the TARDIS is alive!! But she can't travel in time, even withing this place's time-frame. It's entirely possible that time doesn't exist here at all we just think it does, because we're all from universes where it does exist! And as far as I can tell, the immortals I've met also were forced to interact with time so it affected their memories; if nothing else!
I didn't completely make the dimension cannon from scratch!! I just manipulated my Dad's hoppers, took one apart to reverse engineer, and backwards did everything! The dimension cannon wouldn't work anyone else because it was specifically calibrated to my timeline, to try to help me get back to the Doctor's Universe (where I was born.) As it was, I'm not even sure if Pete could have come with my Mum using his own hoppers! I thought Mum must have blackmailed Mickey to make him help her come after me (which she did after I made the bridge), but thinking about it, it might have been easier for them because their timelines started off in the other universe and they'd traveled from there before!
Bad Wolf is--
I did something with the TARDIS that I probably shouldn't have, but it saved the both of us. My Dad knew to catch me when he did because of Bad Wolf, and Bad Wolf was a trail I left myself to follow.
So as it is, even if I wanted to make another dimension cannon for myself back in my normal timeline, 1) I don't think I could 2) it'd be dangerous so the Doctor would stop me. But I have my own TARDIS to grow there. It will be calibrated to that universe though, and like I said, TARDIS aren't supposed to jump universe tracks.
Okay so there's this thing called the "time vortex." That's what fuels Jack's and Time Agents' Vortex Manipulator(s).
The time vortex is the literal swirl of time & space per universe. All universes have one.
They also power the heart of the TARDIS.
HERE the TARDIS can travel -> 3 Dimensions.
Up, down, left, right,
A, B, A, BAll 360 degrees as far as it can go. It can even displace. And it likes to play with the first 3 dimensions, but I won't explain how, the Doctor loves to see people's reactions when they first discover it. So if you ever find out, be enthusiastic! He'll be thrilled and so proud of his baby. (His ship.)However, she cannot travel the 4th here! Nor 5th to get us back. (Not that she's good with the 5th dimension as it is!!) She does still think and react to thoughts and is psychic though so maybe 6.
Some alternate Earths are supposed to have free/alternate human-created time travel. The Doctor's Universe won't ever -- except for small exceptions. TimeLords, of course, Time Agents, River Song, and a few others. I can't tell you how I know that, because while I'm 99.999% sure no one can remember what happens here, even .001% is enough to change things or allow something dangerous for just this place!
Harriet Jones was the prime minister! For a brief Britain's golden age. It lasted like... a year. I assume in other versions of Earth it lasted longer, because it was the Doctor who deposed her. (And he only existed in one universe.) She was right at the time, but I got a lot less violent the more time I spent with the Doctor. He made me a better person. Jack made me a lot better too. They give me a lot to live up to.
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[EXCUSE HER SHE'S GONNA GO BE A DRAMATIC EMO WOLF ABOUT MAKING JACK IMMORTAL KTHX.]
But contrast that... I saved everyone I ever did out of selfishness.
I didn't think so at the time. I didn't remember what I'd done with Bad Wolf to save Jack or afterwards understand the effects of that until I was here, I just reacted out of impulse with my Dad, and I thought when I saving the Doctor it was that the universe needed him. I didn't realize it was my selfishness until here, and the cost of it was, and still isn't mine to pay.
It troubles me.
But Amy said it was okay to save someone out of selfishness. It was a lot better to be rescued because someone loved them too much to want the universe to be without them, than for the universe to be dependent on them. I never thought of it that way before her! I think it helps. Because being rescued out of love makes living better. It's easier to carry on doing anything you have to knowing you are loved. I hope. I think so. I hope so.
Sometimes you have to live through unpleasantness just so you can prevent it from happening all over again. Like I said, sometimes bad things are inevitable, if not the first time, then again and again. We learn by enduring and it lets us do better. I think a human able to live nearly infinitely and keep learning from it would become the best and kindest person of all. The more bad things you go through, a good person decides to help make sure others don't have to. That's what makes them good.
There are a series of fictional movies about my life in -- I don't remember if it's a planet or alternate universe! They were nothing like the real thing though lol! I only could catch one, but it was very lurid! There might be more out there, I'd love to be a comic hero! But I can't imagine anyone would ever do that! It's not like I have any superpowers! I'm just more willing to do crazy things, and I know a lot of very smart people! :)
You might think someone's life only impacted yours, but look at my Dad! I thought he wouldn't matter much to anyone outside of me and my Mom, and it's almost like there's a whole universe built just around him lol!! And like I said, he's practically Steve Jobs there! (Which is gonna be pointless if your universe doesn't have him!) He sold a lot of this tonic (my Mom calls it) called Vitex, you can even buy some in stores here!! Maybe because I'm here, I don't know! :) But it's like Pop or Gatorade! With vitamins. And he used that to fund his inventions, and updated cell phones in his universe and blue tooths and GPS, and all kinds of awesome things!
Like I said, Amy said saving someone for selfish reasons is a good reason to want them alive because it's a lot easier to live because someone loves than because the universe needs you to deal with pain. I hope she is right. I still can't convince myself though, so there are a lot of days I still feel really guilty. =\
I like to think you can fix almost anything with enough time, effort, and possibilities. :) But I blame my Dad, the Doctor, and traveling through the fifth dimension for that.
Sometimes though, you have to accept a loss and move on without it.
I'll let you know how when I figure out how myself. So far, I have a 0 for 10000 batting average. Except for breakups with boyfriends. Those I can leave and not look back. At least not look back with regrets! People dying though? Not so much. Even suicides make me wish I could try to prevent them.
If God exists, then it's with an understanding that even for every death and all the pain and harship, the other universes without those deaths they continue on, and everything in the end, is just a story, so the goal of life, is making it a good one. Not to prevent all pain and heartache, but to make people as happy and better as you can. But God would also not be able to change things very easily, because those changes would result in more splinters and parallels, so it comes back to hope and love I guess. I don't know if God exists. I don't know if I care, if it even matters to me. It seems so; literally; immaterial. An only 6th dimensional thing? I think most people will be good for physical reasons, or because they're taught and know better, not out of worry about the end.
We did meet Satan once though. But he lied to me. Sort of. He was just trying to scare and hurt everyone.
I shot him into a black hole :)
The Doctor has no money lol!!! He's a total bum! I had to buy all his food when we were on Earth! Granted, it would be pretty impossible to carry money for all time periods and all planets!!! My Dad hooked me up with a special credit card that hooks up to a government grant account for Torchwood. I still had to be really careful, I couldn't just -- LOL -- Run away into another universe and live like a queen even if I wanted to!! -- You have to account for inflation and attention and it's a real pain! But it was just a voodoo atm card so if I got really stuck, or I landed in Cardiff or something and couldn't get back to Londond with the cannon safely. I can't tell you how he did that either, though I have a good idea!!! But the Doctor doesn't even do THAT! He just jimmies ATMs!
Getting a real job for him here has been seriously weird! Jack said the Doctor DID have a real job once, on Earth even!! But I can't imagine it! He's too fidgety and ridiculous; the Doctor. 10 quid he has no idea what he's doing with his red bills here either.
TARDIS are alive. They are grown, not manufactured. You have to be psychic and they have a will of their own, so the Doctor's TARDIS is feisty, and rebellious! Like him! Vortex manipulators just punch coordinates in, and off you go! Except getting the coordinates right is a headache and a half! That's why Jack wound up meeting Queen Victoria. He knew the Doctor and I would be back in my Mum's time eventually, because that's where we always went back to, only Jack missed by 150 years!! He made it eventually, but by then I was in Pete's Universe, and that is how he met Martha Jones, another of the Doctor's friends here (and from his universe!)
I wouldn't say we ever "fixed" things with Queen Victoria...
The Doctor and I prevented her from being eaten by a werewolf (in the Doctor's universe) and she knighted and exiled us in the same breath!! Then she made Torchwood to stand against alien threats, because she didn't trust me and the Doctor too! Jack met her and I don't know exactly what happened, but he was sort of forced into working for Torchwood. 150 years later (wait is that right? Maths and dates I'm not good with, CAN YOU TELL?! Hahah!) London Torchwood was helping bring over the cyberman from my Dad's universe.
Cyberman originated on Mondas in the Doctor's universe. Hopefully, you'll never meet them.
In my Dad's universe, they originated from Earth because the company that bought Pete up and folded them in, made them. They were made to be super soldiers! Brains of human, robot encasing, but with emotional inhibitors in order to control them! They have to kill people to turn them into cybermen. Sometimes you can voluntarily be converted, but that just means they take your emotions and hook up your brain to the cyberking and controllers.
Cybermen were made to fight off death and decay.
But they're basically zombies in robot-suits =\
You stop being human when you get cyber converted, and usually lose your mind and everything that made you you.
Jackie Tyler (my Mum!) from Pete's universe got converted.
There years later for him and Mickey (only like a year? Half a year???) for me and the Doctor, the cybermen from Pete's universe hacked into the Doctor's.
They had help, like I said.
But the London Torchwood of the Doctor's Universe ALSO helped them, because they're stupid.
Torchwood cannibalizes alien tech to make it all awesome and useful for humans and whatever. Have you seen America's Men in Black? It's like that!! Except only Pete's Universe Torchwood would help aliens get situated. Well, I mean, probably others where Queen Victoria was killed by werewolf aliens too, maybe, but whatever.
Anyway, so London Torchwood in the Doctor's universe was pulling the cyberman in, without even realizing it, but that's what the Doctor and I used to push them back out and into the void instead of just Pete's universe!
I guess there are infinite(ish?) universes where Mickey didn't replace Ricky, but Ricky dying maybe wasn't "supposed" to happen either? It's really complicted and infinite! See? But Mickey never created paradoxes, because he's
timidnot as reckless or stupid as me. Haha.And me being in Pete's universe didn't make paradoxes either, nor did my Mom being there, because time is not a single loop; it's that bowl of tangled spaghetti getting continuously eaten. :)
Everyone ever should talk to Jack. I love him. Hahah, everyone loves Jack though! Even the Doctor. It's impossible not to like Jack, in my experience. The first day I meet someone who doesn't like Jack, is someone I'm gonna view sideways. And Mickey doesn't count, because Mickey and him just gave each other hard times but they still like each other. They're best mates now!!
The Bad Wolf is my trail of breadcrumbs! Maybe someday I will explain it in greater length to you, but now's a bad time for it. It's how my Dad knew to catch me, and it helped me find my way back to the Doctor, every time I thought about giving up "for the best."
It is also how I helped Jack, but it sort of hurt him very badly too. If he wants me to tell you instead of telling you himself, I will, but I'm not sure how much he's keeping it secret. Sometimes I think he will tell no one, and then he has no problems sharing it! He's even trickier than the Doctor haha!
The Bad Wolf is me!
I will show you my old post if you want, but it is more than just my Torchwood code name. It's my codename through all of time and dimensions! It's a secret meme I use to lead me where I have to go! When I see "Bad Wolf" I know it means me! And if I want to tell the Doctor I'm on my way because the end of the universe prematurely is coming and only he and I can stop it, then I will send Bad Wolf ahead of me to let him know I'll be there!
It's sort of that 6th dimension thing again. Which came first? Me affecting time, or the stories of the big bad wolf? Did I think of calling myself that because of the story, or did I make the story so I would think of it? It's very confusing! I wanted to tell myself to huff, puff, and blow down anything in my way! But I could have called myself a tornado, so why Bad Wolf? I just know it's me! Little Red Riding Hood too. That's the Doctor. Or maybe I'm red riding hoodie. I forget!
But I copied the Doctor, TARDIS, Jack, Blon Fel-Fotch (an alien), the vortex manipulator, and I had a lot of help from Torchwood, my Dad, and a few others. So it wasn't just luck or skill lol! And I messed up more times than I can count!
But my Dad caught me before the void, because of Bad Wolf. He got the writing on the wall (literally), and Mickey and my Mom were all fussing about going back, because they were with me when I first figured out that Bad Wolf meant I could get back to the Doctor and save Jack -- and so Mickey and my Mom were gonna go back to get me, but the Doctor told them every use of the hoppers made the cracks in the walls between universes worse and more dangerous than even the cybermen could get through, so eventually Pete came back to get me rather than let my Mum or Micks do it.
And because the being-willing-to-try-anything-and-everything I got from my Dad. Originally, what with us being from different universes and Jackie Tyler of his universe not wanting kids, he didn't really see me as his daughter, but between all we did together, and my Mum, and Micks, and the Doctor... we forged a new bond anyway.
Didn't stop me from stealing his tech and defying his orders.
I'm not proud of that.
But I hope he'll be proud of me here, even if I still ran away from home. Every time. Still am running it seems like.
I ran away from home, from my Mum, way before I met the Doctor even! And then when I met him, I only came back to Earth and the 21st century for her usually. Once with Jack to Cardiff. There's a interdimensional rift for beings that didn't have a 3rd dimension anymore. They were leaking in through the gas, and trying to take over dead corpses. When the rift was sealed, it still left a scar that leaks all kinds of time energy and lets the TARDIS fuel up!
It also leaked in a lot of pains in the keister that Jack and Cardiff Torchwood had to deal with!
C'est la vie, yeah?
Haha you can try Rose.
but it's hard to say. Maybe it too exists. It's a really interesting thought, but I wish I had answers, you know?
I know, that's what makes the concept so huge and awesome. It never ends. Infinity is amazing like that..and we could debate it for infinity and never have the answer. Cool,
huh?
Time is relative yeah, I mean there's time which you say has an end too, but everyone has their own personal time, which will eventually run out, at least we think so. Can't be sure until you die and find out.
I don't want to change things at home, so that's good to know about this place. I mean,
within reason. I change the things I can at home, but I don't want to you know, break it or something. Do you think time continues without us? Or does it stop? Or is it a divergence like dimensions and parallel worlds?
Math is useful when you're learning engineering things. It's good to know how to calculate technology and it goes really well with science too.
You don't need to make time the same everywhere, I think, it hasn't harmed the dimensions yet right? It's probably a good decision not to do that.
What does kissing strangers and getting mugged have to do with time travel? Wouldn't that change time?
Are you saying that no matter what happens on Earth, it won't end until the humans have moved away? Whoa. That would be...comforting I'd think, considering everyone assumes that we'd kill each other first.
That's kind of disappointing! A dimension cannon sounds kind of fun. I'd be interested in seeing the calculations that make that, the TARDIS and the vortex work. Do you think the doctor knows?
Don't worry, I'll be very enthusiastic.
[Seriously, fanboying is Not. A. Problem.]
I won't ask then, if you can't tell me something,
I know how it is. Everyone has secrets.
Do you think saving people is always selfish? Even if you don't tell anyone? That's kind of a heavy thought, I mean, if I saved someone did I really do something I didn't intend?
[Hypothetically, except he's thinking now. He's tried and saved a lot of people, no matter how small it was.]
I would save people because it's the right thing to do, if I could, you know? Someone has to look out for people who are vulnerable,
don't they? Like superheroes.
[She's probably right, about living through loss and wanting others not to feel the same way. That's probably a valid way to do it, if nothing else.]
Haha, see what I meant! Fiction is fiction and it gets all twisted, even if it's based on someone so it's better to assume you don't know them even if their name is familiar. They might surprise you!
Vitex? What kind of tonic is Vitex?
Yeah, I know. There's some losses you can't do any thing about.
I do believe that's what they say about Satan, so you probably met the real one. Or some infinite approximation of one.
A credit card that works all over the place? Wow. That's amazing! I wish I had something like that sometimes! Aw, why would the doctor steal from ATMs? I was just starting to like him.
[Really Doctor? Must you be a criminal? The kind of small-time criminal that's in his wheelhouse? How disappointing.]
I guess at least you saved Queen Victoria from the werewolf, even if you got kicked out after that...and super soldiers? Your dimension sounds like kind of an exciting place.
I understand the idea of alien tech. I'm not sure if I've ever seen some or not. I know someone who dabbles in all kinds of technology, but if it's alien, I wouldn't know.
He has the kind of technology I wish I had, but since I don't have a magic credit card...lol
I hope I get to meet Jack then. Do you think he'd answer more questions?
I think I kind of get what you're saying right? Like Newton's laws of physics. For every action there's an equal and opposite reaction. Do you think that applies to dimensions too?
Yeah, it's probably not a good idea to steal tech or stuff like that though. Just don't do it again, unless you want him to be mad at you.
Don't tempt her! 1/?
I'm not completely sure how the Dream Docks work? I haven't been there. The youngest Doctor, and Martha recently went, so I could ask them. One, when you are retrieved here, your memories only recall up to a point, so the Dream Docks submerge your consciousness enough to bring back the memories that are buried within your timeline. Two, you literally dream the entire normal reality of your timeline, while your physical being remains safe here. It's something to ask about I suppose.
If the first one, then no, time doesn't move at your homeworld, but you do! If the second, then yes, it diverges like you said.
Yeah, I got a D in science. A in History and Literature! Completely useless! Most of the textbook history is wrong anyway!
Are you an engineer then? Or hoping to be one?
[Rose laughs out loud again!] Kissing strangers and getting mugged was a joke, I hope. Although given the Doctor's inclinations for French girls, I don't know. Especially if they were blonde I suppose. ANYWAY! It's more about you take chances! Eat weird foods, jump in with both feet! Don't worry too much, just have fun!
The Doctor doesn't splinter, and I don't think he minds changing time here and there for the right reason! :) Jack neither! And Jack could probably woo the entirety of Paris in one night if he wanted to. [Rose... is that really a compliment?!]
Yes and no re: Earth's end. You shouldn't worry too much, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't do your best to save it either! Sometimes aliens and unfriendly forces like to mess up even time! Maybe it IS your job to save it! And even the mostly unlikely of people can be superheroes just by trying their best at the right moment!
I know the Doctor knows calculations for the vortex manipulator and how to compare it to the TARDIS, and maybe he could even figure out the dimension cannon.
Whether he'd show you? Is another matter. Your best bet is to either catch his youngest: Fluffy-haired, wears a tie, recently got a collar from me that says "Bad Doggie" (he was a werewolf pre-Halloween stuff) and pinstripe suits and sandshoes. -- Catch him in a good mood, be cute and smart and ask him to geek out physics and such with you, and he might. If he's in the right mood. You can tell him I sent you -- Rose Tyler. That'll help, assuming we're not fighting, and I'll make sure to let you know if we do have a fight anytime soon. OR: You can catch his oldest self at his most Teacher-Lecture-y. He's got grey hair, guitarist, sunglasses, varies between a cape and hoodie, but Joe Cool -- according to him. He might tell you you have to sit through a dozen more lectures first though, and if he does say that, he means it, so buckle in for a very long ride. But he makes classes fun! Or at least he and I cheat and sometimes we text jokes in the middle of class lol! FOR ME: it's like having your best mate and sexy professor at the same time. But I imagine most of his students find his lessons more interesting than not. Unless they're idiots.
Jack might also know the caclulations and be willing to show -- if you give him a good enough reason. He wouldn't do it just on a thought exercise! It's top secret stuff he had to guard in our universe!!! With his life! So even if it's not a big deal here, it'd still go against the grain for him.
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You should save as many people as you can, as often as you can.
When we went back to World War 2 and met Jack, there was a thing affecting the people there. I was teasing the Doctor about not dancing -- like I said, I danced with Jack up on his invisible spaceship tethered to Big Ben! -- And he said, "You want moves, Rose? I'll show you moves!" and he healed hundreds of people with the wave of his hands and by being very clever, and very good. I think that was the best day of my life.
But people weren't hurt with saving them. Not even Germany and Hitler, because they were all non-combatants. Children, elderly with missing limbs (that regrew them!!) and generally frail, or women who couldn't fight or would only have been driving ambulances like the Queen.
Before I knew him, the Doctor went back to the Titanic. It still had to crash, but he rescued a family from going on it. Stopped them by giving them a free first class ticket on a later cruise.
The reason doesn't matter as much as what IS I think. Part of that... 6th dimension thing I have qualms about.
[But she killed people. Killed friends! People she loved, people she cared about, sent them to their deaths!]
[No.]
[No.]
[It wasn't real.]
[But what was real?]
[Her saving people just meant they weren't allowed to end their lives.]
[She wants to run to Jack, to apologize, to cling, to have him tell her he didn't mind, he loved his life now...]
[But would she even believe him? She couldn't do it anyway. Because he deserved better than that. Because he'd feel guilty for even telling her, letting her find out. And the white hot anger spikes all over again.]
[It kept her going once...]
[And now?]
[Now she hated herself.]
If you stop a suicidal person from dying, you haven't fixed what made them suicidal in the first place, yeah?
If you make it so someone is not allowed to die, what have you done?
I don't want my friends to think of me as Defender of Earth. And I don't want them to be sad that I'm in Pete's Universe.
I don't know.
I just reached some very hard realizations about myself here that I am having a hard time facing.
I always thought I was good friend, and I was pretty proud of that. But I've hurt everyone closest to me and I don't know how to make up for it. The damage can't be undone, and after so long in the fifth dimension, I got too used to the idea that I could try again. That I could just act on my anger. My anger kept me going, even when the whole world literally burned around me. But here it just burns me.
That's probably really dramatic sounding, don't worry about it.
You should always save as many people as you can. But sometimes saving a life doesn't mean just pushing them out of the way of an oncoming truck. Instead it means being there for them and holding their hand so they don't cross the road too early. And I feel like I was only ever good at the first one. Very pathetic feeling. Just try to be there for people, yeah? You won't know what they need if you're not there. But all I've ever done is run away.
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It's definitely a good idea to treat people you think were fictional as something different. If nothing else, it kind of freaks people out when you know them more than they know you usually. =\ But I don't think even I have it in me to act like I know nothing about Sherlock Holmes!!! Hahah, but that's okay, isn't it? Since he's famous even in the stories!
Yes, Satan is supposedly a liar, and he told the Doctor he was the Satan/Lucifer/whatever of all religions, of all universes, of all times, before time and stuff. And the Doctor said, "There's nothing before time!" And Satan asked "Is that your religion?" Supposedly the forces of light trapped him on the edge of a black hole. We almost fell into too! I think that was one of the scariest things we ever did. Probably! But we got out okay! The Doctor even said TimeLords invented black holes in order to stabilize the universes' galaxies center of gravities lol! But I have no idea if that is true or he was just showing off and being silly. Torchwood was there too! But that was before I worked for them, and way before I knew Jack worked with them. The Doctor was so excited at how intrepid humans were, trying to explore the edge of the black hole to find out how the planet could stay there he wanted to hug them, lol!!
I miss that credit card a lot!! Even if I couldn't refill it here, I keep reaching for it sometimes and forgetting lol!
He jimmies them, doesn't steal. He has an account with 10 Downing Street -- think the White House! And a few international companies, and I don't even know his relationship with the Shadow Proclamation, but it's just not possible for him to carry the right amount of money usually! In the year -- No I forget. 19000000000? Whatever! SUPER DUPER FAR IN THE FUTURE! He gave me and a boy I picked up cards that we could use for the food court there! And Adam -- that was the boy I picked up (if the Doctor calls you Adam, it means he doesn't trust you and he's annoyed with me for sending you his way, sorry in advance!) had enough to get a major surgical operation to implant a computer chip in his brain. And before you ask what kind of an idiot would do that, the answer is Adam. And that is why the Doctor doesn't trust me to pick up boys, even if I picked up Jack after that. But the cards had a ridiculous amount on 'em. It's just like I said, accounting for all of time and space is impossible.
And Dad's card only worked in universes with 1) Vitex 2) Torchwood and/or 3) The British banking security Dad invented ;) -- Although Vitex and Torchwood are here, the government doesn't connect accounts lol!
Yup, knighted and exiled in the same breath!
I'd say there's never a dull moment for us, but no, sometimes there is! I just remember I wasn't bored with the Doctor. Or Jack. But I didn't get to be with Jack without the Doctor before. But even downtime is an adventure with the right people. -- I say that, but it's not like I settled myself down for happily ever after in Pete's universe. I even found one the cybermen must have jumped on through their bridging when they managed to infect all of my London, even me and Jack. It's called a Glitched timeline, but it was really scary. Even for not real.
Jack might be willing to answer more questions, yes, lol. Just be friendly, and give him good reasons to talk about it, remember what I said, about this is all kind of new to us; being ABLE to talk about it at all. And I was the only one of all of us I think who was just dying to be able to share all this stuff with normal people and not worry!!! You know it's funny, the first alien crash-landing on my Earth, FIVE MINUTES before that I was telling the Doctor how unfair it was that I got to see all this crazy stuff, the world ending, gelt posessing bodies in 1860, and I couldn't talk to anyone about it or they'd think I was mad and lock me up. And just like that? Bam! Crash alien landing!
But it was faked and there was a ton of cover-up by governments anyway, so I went on still not really able to talk to most people about it lol. I mean Satan? You took it so casually! But I could never have told ANYONE about it. Not even my fellow Torchwood team!
Like I said, Jack surprises me. Sometimes I think he'll want to keep things dodgy and secret, the way the Doctor would, but then he'll just come right out with it, all casual. He's the best, Jack. If he doesn't want to answer questions, he'll probably just tell you. He's also the easiest going, so he won't be a dodgy asshole like guitarist teacher Doctor.
Some of Newton's laws apply, it all depends on the dimension. The void is 0 though. No dimension, no laws, no thing.
Yeah... I definitely won't steal from Peter again. Nor Meta's screwdriver, psychic paper, or TARDIS. Okay, I might steal the TARDIS. But only because she's half-mine too!
At the time I was just trying to save reality, and I decided it was worth the cost. I don't think the Doctor realized how much Peter took the Doctor's order to heart. Usually people don't listen well to the Doctor's orders. TimeLord, yes, but that doesn't make him perfect. I still don't know how to make it up to Peter either. Dad. Or the rest of Torchwood. Not to mention I'm bringing back a half-alien boyfriend who is 1) terrible with people 2) bossy 3) know-it-all 4) arrogant 5) the only person who could even REMOTELY come close to being as stubborn as me. (He's still less stubborn though!) I'm half-worried he'll insult everyone, mock all operations and point out the flaws without solutions, snark about how they're all apes playing with rocks -- all without knowing ANYTHING about Pete's Universe's history, whether the space is any different or all of it.
But it'll work out. Whenever I go back. Which might be never.
Hahah... I'm only half joking.
If I go back, I might never see Jack again. Something we hadn't really considered the last time we were together. I don't want to leave Jack for as long as I can do anything about it. And speaking from experience, I have more say in that than not.
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Some theories I guess we'll never know the answer to, because if it diverges with or without me, well I'll never know.
I'm the opposite. I still get As in those classes, but I'm strongest in Science and Math.
I like inventing things too, so it comes in handy. I don't know what I'd like to be.
An engineer would probably be pretty fun, but I'm not sure I'll have enough time to work all the time. It's complicated.
[The life of a superhero is pretty demanding.]
I...really don't know that much about it, I haven't gone out with girls too much. Uh, just one date really and it didn't go well.
At all. It could've been better.
Of course, it's just comforting to know that it won't just end! I would still try and save it with everything I have!
[Gee, why is Tony so worried about him?]
I wouldn't mind sitting through those lectures,
I just find it really fascinating, but I understand secrets and they don't need to tell me if they don't want to. It's just curiosity for me. I don't think I would go time traveling. I don't want to mess things up.
Oh! I should introduce myself too then. I'm Peter Parker.
I'm doing my best. Saving people is what I really want to do, because some people need help and if I can help them, I'd feel bad if I didn't.
But...the long term kind of saving isn't really what I do. I can get them somewhere where they can get help and I can stop them from hurting themselves or others, but uh the rest is kind of beyond what I do. There's always someone else who needs help,
that's the problem.
That's something I have to think about too, probably, but I don't know how I could do it differently. I save strangers, when I can.
[He understands hurting people around him. He imagines his aunt will be very hurt to learn his alter ego. He's only doing it to protect her, really.]
Sometimes...people get hurt. Unintentionally.
Why wouldn't I just have soda instead? I don't think I need a vitamin boost. That's why I ask.
I would never try and make someone uncomfortable!
Lol that sounds like a really weird encounter with Satan, but now he's gone so...everyone is safe?
Oh good, he has an account. Got it. That's just weird, but if he didn't it would be stealing and innocent people would have to pay for it. Like a bank heist.
Did you like Adam? I mean, I guess you must have.
It sounds like Jack is a great friend to you. I promise I will be very polite and friendly should I get to meet him, you don't have to worry about that. I wouldn't bother him unless he wanted to answer questions. I promise I don't talk metaphysics with everyone!
What a weird place that void is. I can hardly believe it.
I hope your family likes your boyfriend. I'm not sure if I could be with someone my aunt didn't like. Or Ned I guess. He's my best friend so he counts.
You shouldn't think about that because it's true all the time. Everyone, it can be the last time you see them. It's terrible.
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Any ideas what kind of stuff you want to create?
[A small laugh about his date that didn't end well, oh no! That's so cute! And relatable!]
Don't worry! First dates almost never go well. The Doctor brought me to see the end of Earth, which was a bit overwhelming. Just relax, have fun, and treat it as a learning experience! You'll do better next time! Almost nothing is unsalvageable!
[Except the things that are... doot doot doot...]
Nice to meet you Peter Parker! I'm Rose Tyler. Codename: Bad Wolf!
Saving people is tricky, isn't it? I can't ever stop wanting to. And I think people should always do their best to save who they can!
But I've taken it a bit too far. Don't be me. Hahah.
People getting hurt is inevitable. Fact of life. I don't think life is about preventing that, because sometimes hurt is good! Like broken hearts, you learn and grow from it! Or volcanic eruptions, like my friend Koishi said. Everything is really fertile afterwards.
Pain is a part of life, but helping people after the fact, helping them to smile again means everything!
Vitex tastes better than regular pop! And everyone needs more vitamins in their diet lol! Too much of what we eat isn't really nutritious! -- Orrrrrrrr maybe that's just me! Mirajane at Fairy Haven says I basically live off of chips (what do Americans call that again? Freedom fries???) and tempura. At least I'm eating veggies! Albeit, smothered in batter and fried... Maybe Micks is right and I should switch to salads.
The Doctor needs a good accountant. But if he did a bank heist, it wouldn't be for money. Like I said, he kind of doesn't bother with it. He's such a bum! But he's good. And there aren't too many laws left that can tell him what to do. I'm not really sure his ties to the Shadow Proclamation but not too many people can hold him back. A few. If they earn his trust. And don't abuse it like me.
Adam...
I don't know. When I first met him, I was really frustrated that I had to keep all this stuff super top secret 24/7!! The only person I could share it with was the Doctor, and I couldn't really with him because he already knew it all and then some. Adam reminded me of the Doctor. He was really enthusiastic about the stars, and tinkerin' with alien stuff, and he was trapped underground with the owner of the internet -- I forget his name.
Adam let me down at first though. And when he told me I belonged with the Doctor, I felt a million times better. I thought, "yeah! That's right, this IS where I'm meant to be!" He made up for it later in his life, Adam. But it was really complicated. I wish things wouldn't have been so hard for him. Even if a lot of it was his own choices, sometimes it feels like maybe if I hadn't go running back to the Doctor, maybe things would have been different. OR: that's me trying to control a situation I had no say in! It's confusing! lol!
Jack's the best, lol! He -- There's never been a single moment in my life he wasn't there when I needed him. Even when I didn't know it. He protected my Mum, he watched me growing up, he even made breaking up with Jimmy Stone easier on me. I can't go back to the times Jack needed me, but I can try to hold his hand here and do my best to give him reasons to smile. Least I can do. Hopefully he'll like you! He likes almost everyone! :)
Hah!! YEAH...
It's. Tricky. Everything with... Meta.
I know my Mum will just be relieved I didn't wall her off a literal universe away, so she'll give him anything she can she thinks will help. And fight for him with Pete -- my Dad. Tony's my new baby brother, only about a year old now! I can't imagine he wouldn't like Meta.
Pete might even give him a job -- which... I don't know.
I didn't mean to go back there. To Pete's Universe.
I'm not even sure how I feel about Meta. There's a lot and everything is so tangled up.
Being here for me is just even more running away. But I'm not going back because, maybe I'm just using Jack as an excuse, but I mean it.
It's a real headache though. Meta said he'd spend the rest of his life with me, but I'm starting to think the Doctor didn't really have a grasp on my dark sides, maybe just had me on a pedestal. I don't know anymore.
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I don't think that date could have possibly gone worse, and there's no way we can even talk to each other again. And she moved away so. It was an experience!
Yeah, cool, nice to meet you. Do you prefer Rose or Bad Wolf, or Mrs. Tyler?
I guess it is tricky, but it doesn't stop me from wanting to help people as much as I can. Maybe someday I'll be able to do more.
Broken hearts a little out of my scope of helping, and I'm sure a volcano is good,
what I'd suggest is getting people out of the way. Buildings and things can be fixed.
It's people dying that can't be.
It tastes better than soda? Man, I'm going to have to try it!
[He's curious, what would supplements do to him?]
My aunt and I like Thai food. :)
Is he in the habit of breaking laws? Because generally that's bad, you know. Even if he *can* he probably shouldn't.
Sorry, that was a really personal question. I didn't think about it first, but yeah,
sometimes when you have a secret, it's good to have someone to talk to.
I'll try not to worry too much about it. :) We'll have to see when I meet him.
It sounds so complicated, I'm sorry. I'm really the worst person to offer relationship advice though, so I won't.
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Well I'm not married, so definitely not Mrs, but Rose or Bad Wolf are both good! I don't really care which! Jack calls me Rosie, and the Doctor always says my full name: Rose Tyler. But Koishi calls me Miss Wolf which is hella cute! Koishi's adorable like that!! :) [She's also a tentacle armed Japanese demon who eats the flesh of the fearful and lives in hell. Rose just casually leaves that out.]
Like I said, sometimes saving a life is as easy as staying by their side. The hard part comes in when you can't.
You're definitely right though. Material matter is replaceable, people never are.
Yeah! I'll make sure to get you a bottle to try sometime. I'm a little biased, but it's not like I grew up on the stuff at least!
Ahhhh Dad does this slogan thing and a pose, I can never get it right though hahaha. When I first was in his world with Mum and him, they were trying to get me into advertising. -- They being his team/staff whatever! But I'm terrible at it, lol! Too chav. :P
Thai's good! :) Advantage to New York City, yeah? Mind you, I grew up in London, and I still lived on junk food, oops! :X
[Rose has to pause and think how to explain the Doctor's interactions with laws.]
What happens when the lawmakers are the ones in the wrong? We go to times and places where--
One of the times I'd ever seen the Doctor at his most explosive, was at an interstellar black market bazaar. They were using and selling TimeLord technology. Weapons. There wasn't really anyone who had authority over the rest. They had security robots, and their emergency protocol was to let the shield protecting the planet from the supernova in a time bubble go down so that the whole place would literally burst, yeah?
When he first met me, I was working at a department store called Henrick's in London, of course. I'm pretty sure he broke in which is illegal, right? But in the basement were these mannequins that came to life -- living plastic. I didn't believe him when he told me what they were, who would?! I thought it was some sort of flash mob drama practice kind of thing... Only we went to give the Nestene Consciousness controlling all the plastic mannequins a choice. Surrender, and he would move them to a planet that didn't have humans still mucking about, or he threatened them with anti-plastic.
There ARE interstellar laws against "seeding" a level... um. 4? I THINK that's what our planet Earth is at that time. Yeah? Maybe? Anyway, there are laws against it, but the people enforcing it aren't always the best and don't offer alternative solutions either the way the Doctor does.
And then Harriet Jones. She was prime minister. Earth was facing a hostile threat in the Sycorax and they were gonna enslave all of us, or threatened to kill 1/3rd. The Doctor said it was just cheap voodoo trick, they couldn't actually kill anyone, but he'd been sick until then, so he didn't see the people who died next to me and Harriet Jones. When the Doctor defeated the Sycorax, he told them to leave and tell all the rest of the galaxies that Earth is defended!
But Harriet Jones ordered Torchwood to shoot them down instead. Because she said, the Doctor couldn't and wouldn't always be there when we needed him. So the Doctor had her deposed. He's not even from Earth, but he did it. He completely undermined her, and she lost all her political power just like that, in a single snap.
I don't think killing the Sycorax was right! I don't!
But I do know Harriet Jones still gave up her life to protect Earth, because she WAS right that the Doctor wouldn't and couldn't always make it back in time.
Most of the worst stuff Jack's been through was because of that. Because he had to go it alone, and neither me nor the Doctor can change that, but I wish the Doctor would respect it more and understand he needs to rely on people better. With the Nestene Consciousness? They would have killed him if I wasn't there. He's absolutely rubbish alone. But--
[He's the only TimeLord! Who the hell else is he going to call?]
It's very difficult for people to keep up with him. I'm being -- MUCH too hard on him in this place. Throwing his every flaw in his face, even when I don't mean to, because I'm angry, and I think--
The things he deals with are beyond and outside of any normal laws usually. Yeah, breaking in and trespassing a department store -- which then BLEW UP! So he was just saving me from the explosion. One time, he had me disguise myself as prison guard for an insane asylum and sneak him in so he could try to find out what was going wrong with their patients in the future; but it went completely pear-shaped (usually does with him!) and they were trying to suck out his "darkness" into a living flesh person that gained consciousness and was kind of all... Jekyll and Hyde up in there.
The Doctor is not always right. He needs people around to help him with that. To remind him when he's off being everything he hates.
That's why he sent Meta to my Mum's universe. Meta saved him, save all us from his worst enemies who were trying to litereally unmake all of reality. But he killed them to do it, Meta did, said they were too dangerous to just leave out there to do it again, even though you can never really get rid of them forever.
I don't know. Like I said, I have a lot of mixed emotions about it. I wanted to be happier about it. To know I made the right decision, but it's a real headache. Heartache too, if I'm being honest.
The TimeLords were upholders of certain laws of the universe before an incident happened. Now it's just the Doctor. And he broke those laws more than once for me. I'm a very bad wolf, and the TARDIS is a cheeky bag girl too. The only laws that really bind him are moral ones, and I love him for that. If he loses that, he'll have lost everything I ever thought I loved and respected about him. He made Jack a better person too, by showing me, Jack, Mickey, even my Mum a better way to live our lives. That we're not just victims on the sidelines of an ongoing war. We're our own players too, we can take stands and help save people. The Doctor makes people into superheroes, not weapons. I'll always love him for that.
He holds certain rules to himself, because he knows he has to. Paradoxes, no breaking the barriers between universes, that sort of thing.
He always tries to find the most peaceful way to do EVERYTHING. Like I said, I used to be super violent before him! Now he has me questioning whether shooting aliens in Gattaca is morally right when they're "real" in their own dimension =\
If he breaks into a bank, or a store, or blows something up, assuming he's not just being an idiot (he and I are both REALLY good at having those moments!) he's got a good reason for it and he's trying to save lives, damn the laws. Like I said, we were knighted and exiled by Queen Victoria in the same minute. Because we saved her from werewolves, but we were joking around too much for her to trust us. Whose laws are you supposed to obey when you go down to Satan's Pit? Most laws are made to protect people, for sure. But they're not made to fit every single circumstance as it arises. And sometimes, just because something's legal doesn't make it right, yeah? And if it's immoral, there's not much of anyone else who can do something about it ^ like with Meta.
I'm being a bit too hard on him lately. I can think of a dozen reasons why that is, but I still trust him. With almost everything but himself. I'm not sure how many people are left who can tell him no, but there's still me. It just messes us both up everytime I do.
That's definitely one thing for Meta...
For all I was saying I was half worried he'd be rude, abrasive, obnoxious, and arrogant? He's stuck in a new universe where no one knows him at all. It's a fresh start, yeah. And that's an adventure too! I hope. But he can't pull all this authority crap like his older versions do. No one will care. He can't just use his reputation to undermine any ruler's authority because he doesn't like what they did. In his own universe, he's done a lot of that. And it's not good.
Even when he's within the laws... what's it matter?
I don't know, I'm thinking too hard. It's probably nothing!
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