thornmage: (Just by use of angle)
Elias Ainsworth ([personal profile] thornmage) wrote in [community profile] genessia2018-06-05 12:11 am

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[Now here's a face no one's seen in a while. Heaven's only knows where he is, but it looks like a forest.

Which... only somewhat narrows the location down a little. What's he been doing?

Christ only knows.
]

A question.

Regarding subgates, specifically.

What is the nature of the thing you must give up to open one? What would one rate its scale of necessary importance?

Must it be non-tangible? An ability or a memory?

Or may it be physical?

[He's got a few physical things he wouldn't mind tossing for the ability to have his heckin' house. Call him spoiled, but he's grown to really like living inside a house.]

I have a preference for what kind of loss it must be. I have no interest in losing anything I find necessary.

[Or sentimental]
youfool: (concern)

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[personal profile] youfool 2018-06-05 05:07 am (UTC)(link)
[Yeah, Ted would call him spoiled. That or out of his bovine skull.]

Either abstractions or substances will do, so long as they're substantially valued by yourself. As for a scale, it's more a binary than a gradient: if it answers "is it cherished" in the affirmative, it will serve.

Not that I'd recommend it either way. What's so important to merit such a sacrifice?
youfool: (concern)

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[personal profile] youfool 2018-06-05 11:44 am (UTC)(link)
[Nothing necessary for do-gooding, then. Verdict: WRONG!]

At best, it'd only be a fabrication based on memory, which you have already. Emptying yourself to get it would, I'm afraid, only deepen the cavity.
Edited 2018-06-05 11:44 (UTC)
youfool: (neutral)

Re: Video

[personal profile] youfool 2018-06-05 06:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. Anything that important is bound to leave a psychic wound.

[Easy to say when you have as much space to hoard as you want. He doesn't think he has to explain the second part, except for]

Besides, there's others to think of. Any ability you have might be very useful for a good purpose.

And, as I said, anything you got would be of superficial authenticity anyway. The purchase couldn't equal the price.
Edited 2018-06-05 18:22 (UTC)
youfool: (depressed)

Re: Video

[personal profile] youfool 2018-06-06 05:11 am (UTC)(link)
Heh, you never know when you might meet a starving man, and a lamb might happen to wander by. But yes, everyone speaks English here so "Yuchi" might not come up. At least for the time being. But then, if you thought it useless it probably wouldn't be accepted.

[Much as he'd like to pretend to neutrality and the weighing of pro's and con's, in truth he has another motive, one borne from anxiety. Elias is, after all, helping or going to help with a very important project.]

Besides, living in a false place wouldn't...be good for you. It's never been for any I've known.
hot_handed: (snarky snarky boom man)

[personal profile] hot_handed 2018-06-05 06:30 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, Skullface.

Instead of sacrificing something for a false world, why not look for a way out? If you're really willing to sacrifice something, you should fight me.
hot_handed: (smirk)

[personal profile] hot_handed 2018-06-05 06:42 am (UTC)(link)
Something a lot more fucking substantial than any subarch can accomplish. I wanna see if your skull is as thick as it looks.
hot_handed: (heroic)

[personal profile] hot_handed 2018-06-05 06:46 am (UTC)(link)
Well I'm not going to pay you to fight me. But if you need a roof then just rent one out like everyfuckingbody else.
hot_handed: (short fused)

[personal profile] hot_handed 2018-06-05 06:51 am (UTC)(link)
It's not your real house, dumbass!!!
hot_handed: (being a jerk)

[personal profile] hot_handed 2018-06-05 06:53 am (UTC)(link)
You'd settle for a lie? Even giving something up that you could actually use?

You might look strong, but you're weak.
hot_handed: (speechless)

[personal profile] hot_handed 2018-06-05 06:58 am (UTC)(link)
[But he wants to fight you!!!]

Tch. Whatever. Do what you want.
hot_handed: (he mad)

[personal profile] hot_handed 2018-06-05 07:01 am (UTC)(link)
Fuck you.

[He's. So. ANGRY!!!]
hot_handed: (explosively angry)

[personal profile] hot_handed 2018-06-05 07:06 am (UTC)(link)
DIE, BASTARD!

[And then he...turns off the video. Because he can't blow up his phone. It would be inconvenient.]
generalgrievous: (Looking)

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[personal profile] generalgrievous 2018-06-05 06:38 am (UTC)(link)
It may be any of those. It can be an item of importance to you or something important in other way. As you said, an ability or memory.

I myself relinquished a weapon of emotional importance to me to open a gateway back to my world.
generalgrievous: (Turned)

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[personal profile] generalgrievous 2018-06-05 06:51 am (UTC)(link)
Unfortunately that is the sacrifice that must be made. You have to weigh how important opening the archway would be to you over the loss of such an item.
generalgrievous: (Turned)

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[personal profile] generalgrievous 2018-06-05 07:13 am (UTC)(link)
I think the key is importance. It may be weighed on a case by case basis.

However, some random thing that you own will simply not be enough. It has to have some significance to you.
generalgrievous: (Looking)

[Video]

[personal profile] generalgrievous 2018-06-05 06:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Not specifically. It can be of importance in other ways.
mother_of_monsters: (Pleased)

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[personal profile] mother_of_monsters 2018-06-05 07:45 am (UTC)(link)
Ey, it's been some time! [ Dray waves at him because of course he does. ]

I've heard it needs to be an important memory or a skill. The more valuable to you the better. I don't have many of those, which is why I ' not sure about creating a subarchway.

I also heard we can get them back if we collect charms and make a wish.
mother_of_monsters: (Oh!!!!!)

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[personal profile] mother_of_monsters 2018-06-05 06:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Hi darling.

Yes, something like that. I don't quite understand how this magic works, only the general concept.

You can't? How so?
mother_of_monsters: (Wary kitty)

Re: Video

[personal profile] mother_of_monsters 2018-06-06 07:28 am (UTC)(link)
Your best option would be to go to the Library and see what information they have.

Where not born like this then? [He waves a hand on Elias's geenral direction.]
bigbadrose: (Listening)

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[personal profile] bigbadrose 2018-06-06 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
It can be physical, but I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to want to make the sacrifice, otherwise, it's not much of a sacrifice, yeah?
bigbadrose: (and now I'm talking to a twig)

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[personal profile] bigbadrose 2018-06-06 04:59 am (UTC)(link)
Granted.

Unfortunately, I don't think anyone's figured out the precise specifics of all that. But if you go through with getting a gate, I can add you to a chart, and maybe open it up to anyone else willing to venture that data, personal though it is.
hotheadwarmheart: (Default)

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[personal profile] hotheadwarmheart 2018-06-07 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
Personally? I don't trust the whole idea of subgates at all. Why give up something real to get what's essentially an illusion?

[He's kind of avoided them like the plague ever since he found out what they were about.]