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[fromthevoid]

[he didn't need an explanation of this place, he had already read everything, sought out answers... and he had a good idea he was already trapped. how fascinating, it was just like a place from the void, like it shouldn't even exist. he had already had plans to burn all of albion to the ground... but here? here he could start over, do just that, and keep up with the cycle.

but first, he didn't want to arouse too much suspicion. he wanted to know who would eventually follow him, bow down to him, and who would he have to kill in time. so, he offered everyone a question.]

What do you think makes up a proper "hero"?

[his voice was low and inhuman.] I have seen good heroes, and I have seen evil ones. So that also begs the question- can a hero be evil?

[ooc: don't forget to fill out his permission post!]

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[youfool]

[Oh hi there, stranger. You'll learn quickly not to ask opinions of dorks] Not according to my dictionary, anyway! *ahem*: "A man of distinguished courage or ability, admired for his brave deeds and noble qualities". And, going further, "Noble: of an exalted moral or mental character or excellence."

Huh, well that's a surprise. I suppose, if one were to be strictly netural, then one could have a bad "hero", though it would sound like raving nonsense.

[fromthevoid]

A man.... you say? Interesting, for I've known plenty of women left and right that have been declared heroes. I did not think such an honor was reserved for only a select few men.

Heroes come in all shapes and sizes, and to think of one as bad....? I have a hard time believing it to be nonsense.

[youfool]

Just a quirk of the grammar. Our greatest linguists haven't yet come up with a good, gender-neutral pronoun, so he is the default. Though, in its defense, the qualities of heroes, or at least the nonsensical ones like honor and romance, do seem to reside most heavily in men.

I suppose this may be my own local prejudice, but I've read plenty of stories about heroes, and all of them are about righteous ones. When they are not, they're typically called "villains."

[fromthevoid]

Ah I see. Perhaps I should have brought a few tales for you to read.. have you ever heard of a place called Albion?

It even has its own guild full of heroes.

[rulerofme]

What makes up a proper hero is someone who is willing enough to protect and give their life for another if they have to. Someone that protects those that can't protect themselves and don't expect gratitude for it.

If someone is evil, then they are no longer a hero. They are a villain.

[fromthevoid]

What if what they had to do in order to save another is what would be called 'evil' in the eyes of others?

[rulerofme]

Give me an example.

[fromthevoid]

A son is told to do whatever he could to get money for his dying family. He is faced with a choice... kill the trader and get more gold from the bandits, or let the trader go and only get a small amount of gold to barely support them all.

Is it still evil to kill the trader...? I wonder.

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[bigbadvigilante]

The heroes the guy who beats up the bad guys, duh.

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[fromthevoid]

And what makes them bad?

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[bigbadvigilante]

I dunno... Like, not kicking the crap out of the baddies?

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[fromthevoid]

So I'll ask you again, what makes these bad people evil in your eyes?

[devil_within]

One word: power.

In my world, butchers have been hailed as heroes. "To the victor goes the spoils, and the pen of history."

It all boils down to power.

[fromthevoid]

[hoh... now this is interesting.]

Not honor, not doing the 'good' for all...? Well, now that certainly is intriguing. And I actually agree with you.

[devil_within]

All that is decided after the fact. The only thing that really matters at the time is power.

Power is everything.

[helpyhelperton]

[Can a hero be--? Are you crazy, mister?!]

No. [She folds her arms, shaking her head with all the academic authority a tiny fifteen year old girl can muster.] A hero is somebody who does the right thing and protects and helps people. There's no way somebody like that could be evil.

[Bam. Final point. Debate over, man.]

[fromthevoid]

What if they protected people, but in a way that killed others at the same time...?

[thefirstwife]

If they wear a cape of course.

Silly little things that die so easily.

[fromthevoid]

Interesting, can a hero be measured up so easily?

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[goddessinthefog]

[Have an androgynous new arrival giving you a raised eyebrow. Unlike him, this one had taken the effort to at least appear human.]

Don't you think that's a little simplistic?

People all have their own desires, and some have the strength of will to try and achieve them. Is that innately good or evil?

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[fromthevoid]

[if only jack had that luxury. this is the closest form he had to being 'human'.]

Exactly, there is hardly a fine line between the two. One can be a hero and still be evil.. I have seen it all before.

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[goddessinthefog]

[There was a reason they didn't flinch or look away at Jack's inhuman appearance... those reactions were far, far too painful. Something learnt through horrible personal experience.]

What would you call a 'hero', then? It's a term so many use, but are heroes real, or just another illusion created for people to justify their actions?

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[mountain_sage]

No...a hero cannot be evil.

However, the term "hero" is entirely subjective. A hero is merely a title. Anyone can perform heroic or evil deeds. Any actions can be viewed as good or evil, depending on one's viewpoint. Only the would-be "hero" would know the truth about himself.

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[fromthevoid]

What would you then call a hero that turned... 'evil' ...hm?

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[mountain_sage]

I would not have called them a "hero" in the first place. Not until they pass from this earth, and only if they haven't turned "evil."