my helped her figure it out, paying for her own stuff as well.
She went out with Rose, breathing in the comparatively fresher air. She listened to all that Rose said, and got the intensity, but she shook her head and stepped back, crossing her arms. "We're going to have to accept that we're going to disagree, then. Cause while I agree with you on a lot of it, on the fundamentals I think you've got a lot wrong, kid." She shook her head. "Some basics. Our being heroes does not take away from his being a hero, and his being a hero does not take away from us being a hero. That's one." And now she was craving a sandwich. "But even bigger? What you said about his not being allowed to die?" she shook her head. "That's not just wrong, it's horrifying. That he's not allowed to die because so many others would die with him? If you told me that, I'd probably want to die too!" She shook her head, and wobbled a bit. "Look, one thing to tell someoen they're not allowed to die and leave you. That's selfish, yeah. But it's also about them too. It's about how much you love that person. But not allowed to die because of the whole world is worse. Because it's pressure in ways no one needs to deal with. It's not our job as the people who love him to keep him alive for everyone else's sakes. It's our job to remind him of all the reasons he wants to keep himself alive. And if he has to keep himself alive to save you, to get you home, that's about you. And him. It's not about the universe."
"Universe is filled with people who love him, who he's helped. All across time and space. But that doesn't make the universe his obligation. Who has the right to tell him that he's only allowed to exist for others, and not allowed to die, because of them? Rose, you're furious with him for taking away his choice... when what he did was say to you, for the sake of the universe, this is your life now. But that's what you just said about him." She shook her head again, and fell on her butt in the street. Well, it was comfortable enough place to sit, she supposed.
"He's the Doctor. We agree about that. It is who he is. But he's also a hero. And my best friend. And my son in law. And a mad man with a box. He's a lot of things, and none of us have the right to demand of him that he be any one thing for the sake of everyone. Not even...for the sake of everyone."
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She went out with Rose, breathing in the comparatively fresher air. She listened to all that Rose said, and got the intensity, but she shook her head and stepped back, crossing her arms. "We're going to have to accept that we're going to disagree, then. Cause while I agree with you on a lot of it, on the fundamentals I think you've got a lot wrong, kid." She shook her head. "Some basics. Our being heroes does not take away from his being a hero, and his being a hero does not take away from us being a hero. That's one." And now she was craving a sandwich. "But even bigger? What you said about his not being allowed to die?" she shook her head. "That's not just wrong, it's horrifying. That he's not allowed to die because so many others would die with him? If you told me that, I'd probably want to die too!" She shook her head, and wobbled a bit. "Look, one thing to tell someoen they're not allowed to die and leave you. That's selfish, yeah. But it's also about them too. It's about how much you love that person. But not allowed to die because of the whole world is worse. Because it's pressure in ways no one needs to deal with. It's not our job as the people who love him to keep him alive for everyone else's sakes. It's our job to remind him of all the reasons he wants to keep himself alive. And if he has to keep himself alive to save you, to get you home, that's about you. And him. It's not about the universe."
"Universe is filled with people who love him, who he's helped. All across time and space. But that doesn't make the universe his obligation. Who has the right to tell him that he's only allowed to exist for others, and not allowed to die, because of them? Rose, you're furious with him for taking away his choice... when what he did was say to you, for the sake of the universe, this is your life now. But that's what you just said about him." She shook her head again, and fell on her butt in the street. Well, it was comfortable enough place to sit, she supposed.
"He's the Doctor. We agree about that. It is who he is. But he's also a hero. And my best friend. And my son in law. And a mad man with a box. He's a lot of things, and none of us have the right to demand of him that he be any one thing for the sake of everyone. Not even...for the sake of everyone."