[Anon Text | Open] A moment of your time to talk about the implications of death?

[treesus]

Given the controversy with Everglade, this seems to be an increasingly important topic. What are your feelings on necromancy? The undead in general? Controlled or otherwise?

Hostility towards this entire branch of magic is odd to me.

For those that know and wish to share, what does necromancy even mean to you? What does it imply? How is it treated on your world?

[Respond however you wish, but he's inclined to stay on anon.]

Comments

[Video]

[aurabble]

We don't always get a choice about how we fight or what abilities we have. What we do get a choice in is how we use it. As long as people aren't using it to murder people or do other illegal things, but to help people instead, how is it a problem?

[Anon | Text]

[treesus]

I agree! This is why I'm asking other's opinions on the matter. Death and the magic connected to it should be studied, like anything else.

Unless, for some, it draws on dangerous forces?

[Anon | Text]

[aurabble]

Anything can be dangerous. A stream of water can crush you with enough pressure and force involved. Pancakes can kill you if you're allergic to the syrup. A sword can be your best friend or a hazard. So it just depends on how careful you are and if you know what you're doing.

[voice]

[yourotherleft]

What, like zombies?

I hate zombies.

[Anon | Text]

[treesus]

I'm not a fan myself, depending on their level of intelligence and willingness to go for my throat.

That isn't necessarily tied to necromancy, unless it is, elsewhere.

[yourotherleft]

Yeah, I don't know anything about that. Like, magic? We don't have anything like that. The only undead thing I know is zombies.

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[innocent_royal]

In my world, necromancy is the perfect balance between life and death, created by the Priest of Balance in ancient times and lost following a war that ended civilization as it had been known. In modern times, it was revived, no pun intended, and used alongside a new branch of magic to summon monsters from another dimension to invade and conquer countries, including my own.

Necromancy is justifiably feared and hated. A perversion of natural law, and a spit in the eyes of our Goddesses.

[Anon | Text]

[treesus]

I can see why it is reviled there. I am curious though, it is not evil by nature? Or has it been corrupted beyond salvaging when it was "revived"?

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[innocent_royal]

It was evil right from conception. It was used for war on the innocent back then and it's used for war on the innocent now.

[Video]

[kalmaleader]

Necromancy...the magic to raise the dead. Using corpses as puppets to attack the living, and who knows what else. Not only is it disrespectful to the dead, but extremely dangerous for the living. So honestly, I don't see any benefit of it at all.

[Anon | Text]

[treesus]

Is it never used to benefit the living? Disrespect to the dead I can understand but what of use of things such as dead animals?

[Video]

[kalmaleader]

The only thing dead animals should be used for is food. It's unfortunate when you think about it, but that's how nature works. Returning to life after death is not natural.

[Video]

[shy_mage]

[And there's no way he's typing anything out. Video always.]

I-I don't like dead things, b-but necromancers can be really useful! I-If the bad guys are busy hitting u-undead things, then they're not hitting your teammates.

[RPG logic here. Not too much depth in thought about it.]

[Anon | Text]

[treesus]

[Of course Bracken couldn't know, but Trahearne did laugh at that answer. True! He might come at this RPG business from a different perspective yet it worked out roughly the same in the end.]

There is considerable value in being able to create literal meat shields! I've summoned undead for that purpose many times myself. So you're more used to necromancy applied in combat?

[Video]

[shy_mage]

[He paused to think about it before hesitantly asking.]

I-Is there something else it's used for...?

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[kingslight]

Necromancy is a devilish magic, one that should be rightfully outlawed! There's no rhyme or reason for awakening the dead just to use them as mere pawns...

[This is surprisingly a touchy subject for him considering he's supposed to be dead.]

Although, I should admit that the House of Lucis can sometimes communicate with our dead. It's...a complicated truth, one that requires the sacred power of our most ancient of relics.

Necromancy shouldn't be take so lightly by fledging mages.

[Anon | Text]

[treesus]

So spirits and a form of necromancy are related where you're from?

I do agree that it shouldn't be taken lightly but I feel that applies to any branch of magic. Careless use of powerful magic always has the potential to be dangerous.

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[truesmiles]

I can understand why they exist in a sense, people want to bring thier loved ones back. Honestly, even I was like that once upon a time. But yet at the same time when they are brought back... they truly are not the same person you once knew.

Even more so if they are under the control of someone. They don't have any free will in that sense, but... if people put it to good use, then it's okay. But at the end of the day they cannot truly come back to being who they were, I understand that much.

[treesus]

I've never heard of true resurrection being successful. The beings "brought back" on my world are not truly sentient, nor do many of them even resemble what they once were. Bringing back whole corpses seems more common on other worlds, at least with the definition I would apply to necromancy, but an inability to regain the soul or personality of the person is consistently impossible.

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[deathsought]

In my world, interfering with the natural order of life and death is one of the highest taboos one can break with magic; though depending on the culture, this can include all forms of necromancy, or it can be strictly limited to true resurrection of the dead.

[treesus]

How strict is this natural order of life and death? Such a thing is forever shifting on my world, due to wild magic and forces that devour magic. Genessia is the most stable place I've ever been.

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[stairsbro]

wouldnt bringing anyone here from the dead be a form of necromancy
those poor fuckers that died in their timeline that get another shot just by being here
or like when you die here and you get to come back bc the spirits or whatever throw you a bone
does that fall under it?
bc if it does i guess im pro necromaning
i mean as long as youre brought back and still you and not some braindead halfrotting thing with no control over yourself
then its not really a bad thing

[Anon | Text]

[treesus]

That's a very good point, I hadn't thought of that. I would think, from my understanding of necromancy, that bringing someone back with their body and spirit intact would be something far beyond the art. It could just be a different form of it.

I wish I knew more about the mechanisms of that process. Not enough to experience it myself.

[Video]

[cursed_analysis]

Fascinating discussion material~ I confess that I believe the source of many's ire is in fact, accounts of pure fiction. Though the very nature of Necromancy does involve a certain trend towards what many people find disrespectful to the dead, so perhaps it's a social stigma.

One that could easily be solved with volunteers much the same as a medicial facility might recieve.

[Anon | Text]

[treesus]

It seems that most who dislike it have only seen it been used to attack others. Which, I feel, makes it no more horrible than another other branch of magic that can destroy. I can see why it would appear to lean towards "evil".

Volunteers could be used, yes, if it came to that. There is a persistent idea that necromancy *has* to rely on human remains, which might be a large part of the hostility.