swordprincess: (Wandering)
Karla ([personal profile] swordprincess) wrote in [community profile] genessia2018-06-19 01:23 am

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[So, Karla's heard that this will be David Haller's last term as Guardian. While she can't fault him for it because he's worked long and hard, and he deserves his rest, it's already making her question her own future. What will it mean for her as a Deputy? Would she have to step down? Could she step up and become a Guardian? She doubts it.] But maybe if she had someone at her side?

I'm...curious about something. Do you think it would be wiser to have more than one Guardian for each city? It seemed to happen for a while in Nova City after Weiss stepped down. Perhaps no more than two. The Deputy system is effective, I think, so there's no reason to change that.

Anyway...what are your opinions?
twin_tailed_wolf: (Thinking)

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[personal profile] twin_tailed_wolf 2018-06-19 05:52 am (UTC)(link)
[A forest creep really has no interest in this form of government, but this provoked an opinion.]

If I understand all this, two guardians is pointless.

Since Nova had two, what even changed? Nothing, it seems. It could go back to a one guardian, four deputy form and it will still be the same. If the Guardian disappears, a deputy takes over, same as a co-guardian taking over if the head honcho disappears.

But that's my two red bills.
twin_tailed_wolf: (In my hands)

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[personal profile] twin_tailed_wolf 2018-06-19 06:10 am (UTC)(link)
And a sword is useless without an arm to wield it. I getcha.

But if the deputies are capable, then its not necessarily a tale of a sword who lost a master, but a master who gained a new sword. Or even a student who becomes a master.

[Are you picking up what she's laying down, homes?]
twin_tailed_wolf: (Blank)

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[personal profile] twin_tailed_wolf 2018-06-19 08:54 am (UTC)(link)
Which one what?

[That's not quite what she was suggesting, but it was close. But then she realises.]

It depends on who, what and when. In this case it's who. Are they missing? Or stepping down? If they're stepping down at the election, then current deputies can discuss it and vote among themselves who should run.

If they can't decide, then fight to the death.

[Joking.]

Of course, the debates are already on so its kinda too late for any of that.
shimmeringdeath: (2)

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[personal profile] shimmeringdeath 2018-06-19 05:56 am (UTC)(link)
For what I can see, two Guardians would be beneficial should certain people be elected.

But I am more concerned at how this election process can allow such gross incompetence to have a chance at a position of power.

[He certainly has not been impressed at the debates.]
shimmeringdeath: (5)

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[personal profile] shimmeringdeath 2018-06-19 06:10 am (UTC)(link)
[It's certainly one of the three he's specifically thinking of.]

I have no faith in that Attleton remaining safe in the hands of either of those so-called candidates. It looks as if Everglade has the only options that are anything close to being considered mentally sound.

[Don't get him started on Nova City.]

I can only hope those who won by default actually prove responsible.
shimmeringdeath: (1)

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[personal profile] shimmeringdeath 2018-06-21 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Just because he is "better" doesn't mean he's "good" or even remotely suitable for such a position. The only thing he has going for him is that he isn't answering to every single thing with the word "murder."

[His brow furrows.]

Hm. Then I suppose I'll have to see for myself. After those buffoons at the debates, I have a hard time trusting anyone in power around here.

[Not that he trusts anyone to begin with. He's already assuming that David has had a stranglehold on Genessia City if he's been in power for three years.]

Unless the debates here aren't always the circus this past one was.
ubiquitously: (has horrible opinions)

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[personal profile] ubiquitously 2018-06-19 07:59 am (UTC)(link)
I've been wondering this myself. Who implemented this system in the first place? Is it something the first arrivals came and inherited, or did we pendent bearers organize it?

Because it seems dangerous to have only one Guardian. People can vanish without reason, and which deputy would take over? There are typically more than one, right?
ubiquitously: (dramatic stare)

[personal profile] ubiquitously 2018-06-20 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Interesting. I noticed that only pendent bearers had applied for this election cycle, which made me suspect we came up with the idea.

If it's something we inherited, though, I would be interested to see what happens if we don't play along... The whole system strikes me as very odd. Governance is good, but this place must have a strong faith in us if it allows us to run for office.

Just how much political power do the Guardians hold?
armum: (☄ cause I've been scrawling it forever)

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[personal profile] armum 2018-06-19 08:33 am (UTC)(link)
I do not know how long I will remain, but, even so, I can guard if it is needed. [She was part of the Guardian Corps and now she is the Knight of Etro, so... She's qualified?]
armum: (☄ ready for a fight)

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[personal profile] armum 2018-06-20 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
[New and feeling completely out of place. She is accustomed to fighting at this point.]

It's strange that we need to be elected to guard. Danger can befall anyone at any time. There is no reason to involve politics in the matter.
armum: (☄ we raise it up)

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[personal profile] armum 2018-06-20 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
What other positions do they fulfill? [Bless her, she will never be much of a diplomat. Lightning speaks her mind, though her anger has calmed a great deal thanks to Etro.] I do not need a title to protect others and myself.
armum: (☄ it was released)

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[personal profile] armum 2018-06-20 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
[Her lips tighten in a thin line.]

A sword cannot strike Chaos in all arenas. You are correct. [Though she is loathe to fight it any other way.] I would not mind representing various races. If it keeps the peace - the stability - it is worth the time.
armum: (☄ a rabbit hearted girl)

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[personal profile] armum 2018-06-20 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
I will do so. [It gives her something to do rather than cooling her heels.] I am Lightning Farron. What should I call you?

[She assumes their paths might cross again. Women who can wield swords can't be too common.]
armum: (☄ and my running feet could fly)

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[personal profile] armum 2018-06-20 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
[She won't ever say no to a good spar. It's a nice way to work out emotions, she has found, though she is realizing she needs to find her calm while she is here.]

The pleasure is mine. [And she means it, giving Karla a respectful nod.] What methods of transportation are utilized most between the regions?
dragonsmark: (ninteyeight)

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[personal profile] dragonsmark 2018-06-19 07:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Hm. That would depend.

[The video shows him crossing his arms, the one with the dragon tattoo sleeve in the front. His face is pretty dour, brows knit and lips set in a sturdy frown.]

The guardians are elected by vote, and the deputies are appointed by guardians, correct? How would you suggest two guardians would run?
dragonsmark: (twentysix)

[personal profile] dragonsmark 2018-06-19 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
[karla that's what he said. In the end, the guardians choose the deputies.]

Hm, I see. That would be the only way it would work without being a fool's errand. [Otherwise, you run into the too many cooks problems, conflicting ideas, incompatible personalities... running on a platform together, however would solve that. His frown stays placed firmly on his face.]

But what would be the point? You've stated the deputy system is effective, adding more into the hierarchy could possibly only cause problems, regardless.
dragonsmark: (sixtysix)

[personal profile] dragonsmark 2018-06-19 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
[He's not necessarily against double Guardians, but the reasoning here feels flimsy to him, somehow. Having been in a position where he had to make decisions alone, this particular "point" only gets him to shake his head in disagreement.]

Positions of power often find that they are required to make decisions alone. It it part of the weight they carry as a leader. If they cannot handle that responsibility perhaps they should not run at all, it shows that they are weak.

[Nothing is, however, keeping them from keeping their ears open regarding the opinions of the people they lead, or work with. But in the end... as a leader someone must be able to make those hard decisions on their own.]
dragonsmark: (onehundredfourteen)

[personal profile] dragonsmark 2018-06-19 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
[He's not sure he follows what she's saying, but he exhales thoughtfully before speaking again.]

That is a problem with a simple solution. Hold a temporary election to replace the missing Guardian. Of course, those who are deputies would be encouraged to run, but in the end it is still settled the same way a guardian would normally be elected.
rulerofme: (pic#8459672)

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[personal profile] rulerofme 2018-06-20 05:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, in a certain way, the Deputies fill that role as opposed to having multiple Guardians. But the Deputies don't have as much power as the Guardian them self. I can see benefits to have more than one Guardian for a city. I can see both benefits and disadvantages to having multiple ones for a city.
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[personal profile] rulerofme 2018-06-30 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, mostly. Disagreements have a way of stifling progress from being made. Though sometimes, differing opinions can be a good thing. It could stop someone from doing something that could be problematic by giving them a different view point.

I suppose as long as you trust the person that you are partnered with, you shouldn't run into many problems.
demonofbadluck: (04)

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[personal profile] demonofbadluck 2018-06-21 07:58 am (UTC)(link)
My personal opinion here is if you can't do something alone and have to work with someone, means you're weak.

[Having people work under is a different matter, but an important role for him, one person should be enough.]
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[personal profile] demonofbadluck 2018-06-21 11:18 am (UTC)(link)
I believe in a benefit two people get out of something. People seem to have a higher believe that teamwork means being nice or helpful, which I believe is the purpose of your question.