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[ubiquitously]

 [Uai has kept his head low while he lets his little Glitch incident blow over. But now that he's had some time to gather more information, he's moving forward. With very innocent motives, honestly! Don't question them. He's definitely not trying to learn what kinds of enemies he might be making later on!]

Good afternoon, everyone. I apologize if this seems out of the blue,  but it's been on my mind for a while now... Seeing as we all come from different worlds, I'm realizing that our definitions of things like "magic" and "science" are very different. It's gotten me quite curious. The limitations I have may not apply to your magic, or vice versa. We might all be accidentally limiting our reach by assuming we're the same.

... So. If I could have a few moments of your time? I would love to learn about how everyone's magic works. Is magic in your world based in some sort of "mana" that flows in the air? Or does it come from your soul? Genetics? Can it be learned, or even taught, in Genessia? Do you need tools? Do we need to make tools for you?

And what about science? If your technology closer to Attleton, or Nova City? Can you travel space yet? Do you have holograms? I wonder what kinds of inventions we could make if we put our minds together?

I hope I'm not being too nosy. It's just fascinating to think about!

[ooc note: If you want to, you can mark your reply "OTA" and use this post for general magic nerd parties? I am not opposed to that if your character is also curious.]

Comments

[quick_clean_pure]

Science where I'm from is way different from Nova City. It's...grimier. Not sure how to describe it. It's definitely way ahead of Attleton, though. But it's less air ships and more, like, medical science and body transformation stuff.

[ubiquitously]

Is that so? Did something come about to inspire that? Like a plague?

[quick_clean_pure]

Yeah, you hit the nail on the head. We had an organ failure epidemic.

[ubiquitously]

Oh, interesting.

... An unfortunate kind of interesting, but none the less. I suppose that such an epidemic left little time for inventing other luxuries.

[quick_clean_pure]

I mean, it's been over a while, but a lot of the stuff we've made ever since kind of traces back to that. The company that cured the world are kind of in charge now, and a lot of stuff flows through them.

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[youfool]

Magic on Earth, as I understood from reading a few of their works, involved trying to produce an effect in a roundabout or soul-spurning way. It involved secret communications , gestures, and injunctions towards demoniacal forces.

It rarely ended well for its practitioners. The more sensible among them moved towards religion, which satisfied the numinous desires its members held much better.

Science simply meant knowledge obtained through demonstration and a certain method.

[Not the most colorful definition, but it'll have to do.]

[ubiquitously]

By your definition of science, isn't both your world's magic and Religion a science? It sounds like knowledge would be gained through those, correct?

I'm sure the standard "scientific method" can apply in both fields.

[youfool]

Haha, not exactly. One of the key factors of good science is being reproducible; as magic and religion both have to do with persons, they aren't so mechanistic. There is, however, much to learn about theology, though religion encompasses that and more besides.

[ubiquitously]

By that answer, am I correct to understand that magic and religion are not constantly reproducible powers in your world?

For context: The 'Gods' back home were an active and blatant presence for me, and my 'magic' can be reproduced flawlessly. I've encountered a number of magicks that are based in formulas and math.

[youfool]

No more than persons are. Dialogue and diplomacy aren't ready means of reliably making anything. And religion has much more to do with power; indeed, the truest one divested itself of such to make a very fine point. And that's putting it mildly.

Mhm, but were they banal as well as blatant? They weren't robots, were they, who matched input to output exactly?

Ahaha, you've an interesting definition of "flawless".

[Cause boy was that not the impression he got, Mr. Glitch Dragon]

[innocent_royal]

Magic in my world is powered by Mana, which is also believed to be the element that makes the world possible. Like a glass of water where the glass is Mana. However, being able to learn and control magic somehow came down to genetics, using the elves, my father and myself as evidence...

As for science... I don't really understand it myself. Science, the way I understood it, is the pursuit of knowledge, and building tools to do so. Such as telescopes to observe the sky. Magic and machines have also been combined, but those are breaking the proverbial glass holding the land together.

[ubiquitously]

Ah, Ana~!

That's quite fascinating. In many worlds I visit, magic is what breaks the glass that holds this world together. Do princesses not study science in your world, or is it that you only received so much of a scientific education?

[innocent_royal]

I actually know very little about science... I still struggle with most of Nova's machines.

I only know the absolute basics of science in my world...

[ubiquitously]

Hmmm... I suppose that makes sense. You would be mostly involved in the politics of your world, and it sounds as if magic is more important than science.

And I think most of us struggle with Nova's machines.

[Video] OTA? if people want?

[light_of_willpower]

I can't speak much about true 'magic' where I come from, as I've only had the barest of experience with it. I can talk to you about science and technology though, and about certain kinds of energy manipulation that often gets mistaken for magic in my world.

The very basic tech in Nova City isn't unlike what I grew up around, although a lot of it is more advanced. I did have an advantage in that my mother was a pioneer inventor, as was her father, and they had a company that dealt with high-tech advances regularly.

What do you specifically want to know?

[He's curious, and sharing basic information could be useful.]

[ubiquitously]

In my honest opinion, "magic" is a weird term. It's often used to describe powers that aren't understood, right? Once you understand something and how to control it, doesn't it become a "science?"

[He drops the subject to focus:] Interesting. It would be amazing if we were able to somehow take advantage of the technology here and invent ways to gain more control over our environment. There was an egg fiasco a few months ago that would have been great to have power over.

Do you have experience in inventing, then? Or did you not take interest in the family business?

[light_of_willpower]

I think there's a famous saying somewhere about how magic is just science that isn't well understood, but I can't remember the full thing so...

[There's a shrug, as it doesn't bother Trunks too much really.]

I don't have their gift for invention no, although I know my way around the basics of mechanical engineering and maintenance, along with programming and coding. Circumstances beyond my control meant that going into the family business wasn't really an option.

What do you mean about taking control of the environment? I mean, they've done a lot of that already somewhat in Nova City. Unless you mean hydroponics or similar?

[ubiquitously]

I see... Still, you have the groundwork for it. That's more than most here, so you're a step ahead and more useful than many others.

[He hums thoughtfully at the question, delving into speculation:]

Well, for example... Being less dependent on this devices that they supplied us would be an advantage. I'm sure there are things we can do to rely less on the 'kindness' of our captors.

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[demonofbadluck]

Magic or powers are something we gain from birth, are given just before we battle for ruler or through eating the flesh of our fallen enemy or drinking their blood.

Though the latter is only a family thing.

[ubiquitously]

Oh. So your magic is high in protein?

[UAI NO.]

That's interesting. I've heard of that theory in other situations. The eating others for their power. Would that mean that the blood or flesh is infused with magical properties, or is it a matter of consuming a soul?

I won't judge.

[demonofbadluck]

Of course. I mean unless you the rare type that can consume souls without the trippy side effects.

[He knows what it does, but has never done it himself really. he has seen others partake.]

Who knows, I just know it's a thing in the royal family. You can't eat just anyone unless that was a lie so we couldn't do that.

[ubiquitously]

I suppose a society where eating each other has a benefit would need laws regarding that, or else 'society' becomes synonymous for 'buffet.'

So then. How does that apply in Genessia? Hypothetically.

Video - super late but here!

[greenmagick]

The magic of my world... [Terra's voice trails off thoughtfully before she's able to put what she wants to say into words.] It is based on the energy or the planet as well as the individual. You could call it mana or by another name but it's life. It exists everywhere to those who are able to feel it.

We also have technology, similar to Nova City but more industrial. [Her head tilts to the side.] Those who valued mechanics and technology often didn't like magic or feared it.

As for space... I'm not sure. That is a question for Edgar. He'd been able to make his castle move beneath the sand and earth.

[ubiquitously]

How interesting! So yours is a world where magic and science developed side by side? That's rare!

Judging by your tone... Is it fair to assume that you're a magic user? You seem to have a lot of thought about it. Do magic users fear technology, or do you value it equally?

[greenmagick]

Yes though magic is rare. It's used to help further science and I believe some people on my planet wish to destroy it in its entirety.

[She nodes her head.]

I am. It always made me different though it was hard for me to understand why. And no, I do not fear technology.